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Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« on: November 09, 2012, 11:13:27 am »
I have replaced the 8GB Intel SSD witha Transcend SD card broadly according to the DIY advice here

http://www.jkkmobile.com/2008/07/how-to-update-acer-aspire-ones-ssd.html

Reassembled, inserted USB live distro (openSUSE FWIW)  but unable to see SD card. Obviously I was expecting to have to reformat it but it's not mounting nor coming up with any filesystem

Should I be able to see it?

Should I try to format it (perhaps using a rescue or similar distro?

Should I format the CD in a card reader elsewhere?

Grateful for any help or advice



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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 12:22:34 pm »
Is the CF card recognised by the BIOS ?

If you hit F2 during bootup, what is listed as

HDD Device Name:

and if you hit F12 during bootup, what is listed in the boot device selection screen ?

I've read elsewhere that some CF cards come in  "removable media" mode, so aren't seen by the BIOS, but may be able to be switched to "fixed disk" mode, where they are seen.
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 04:33:16 pm »
Thank you for replying.

HDD Model name comes up as "none" (drive light is on, helpfully) 

boot order is (as written...)

1. USB HDD: USB 2.0 DISK
2. Network Boot: LEGACY PCI DEVICE

(live USB stick boots successfully) 

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 05:35:28 pm »
My guess is you have a bad connection somewhere .. from what I read (having never used one myself) about using the ZIF to CF adapters in the AA1, it may not show in the BIOS (if the CF is set to "removable media" mode), but it should show in the boot device selection screen.

See the comments here:
http://overthis.com/2009/03/aspire-one-16g-compact-flash-upgrade/
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 06:15:06 pm »
That link is really helpful. Thank you

I've tried to create a flip over cable using the various comments on the original site (but probably failed...). I think I've managed to order some flipover cables.  I see also the comments about converting a card to fixed disc mode.  Need to find out more about that too. Also I thought the black thingy was just a holder not a ferrite core anti interference device...

I'm using  a Transcend card, I'll try to track down a Linux utility 

I'll report progress back here in a few days time if/once I've got all the bits sorted out.
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 06:19:05 pm »
Please do .. I'm VERY interested to know how you get on, as I have a couple of AA1's myself :)

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 06:39:46 pm »
i've been here before and bios does not pick up either left or right cf slot i used a usb key with of put on via another pc with unetbootin after my upgrade hope this helps
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 06:59:46 pm »
You're misunderstanding what he's doing .. it's nothing to do with the left and right SD slots,

He's replaced the internal SSD with a ZIF to CF (compact flash) adapter and CF card.

See the links ;)
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 07:42:28 pm »
Some new information worth putting on the forum, I hope:

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Most CompactFlash cards by default identify themselves as removable media instead of fixed disk. Which is fine for Linux, but not for Windows.

If you have to use a CF card that has the type bits set to Removable and want to install Windows XP you can work around it as follows;

    Use Linux to partition the drive with a FAT32 partition (you can boot from one of the LiveCD/LiveUSB distributions for this), and set the partition bootable.
    Start the install of Windows, during install you will be given the opportunity to migrate to NTFS
    After the install is finished you will need to install the Hitachi microdrive disk drivers (google for XPfildrvr1224.zip), which will mask the removable bits and should allow suspend and other operations that fail on a removable drive to work.



http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/CompactFlash_boot_drive

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 08:03:01 pm »
Question ..

Does Linux see the CF card ?

If you boot to a LiveUSB of say Peppermint, then open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), what is the output from:
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sudo fdisk -l
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 08:52:12 pm »
I've reinstalled my old SSD while I wait for the flip ZIF cables to turn up.

At the install stage, my live openSUSE partitioner was unimpressed, couldn't see anything, but that might be because as you said earlier there was a connection problem.

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 08:55:00 pm »
I'm going to guess if the openSUSE partitioner couldn't see it, neither would fdisk .. so your probably right (connection issue) .. let me know what happens when the flip cable arrives :)
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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2012, 01:17:58 pm »
Just updating that I managed to order the wrong type of LIF  >:(

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 09:46:17 pm »
OK - I'm stuck. The flip cables arrived today, also I managed to neatly fold a non-flip cable too

I've bulked up the ribbon cable to ensure a tight fit in the connectors

I've tried two CF cards both Transcend: 32Gb/400x and 16Gb/600x

None of the combinations proved visible to the BIOS

Attempting to install openSUSE doesn't indicate the existence of the Transcend card either.

Either I start assuming that the adaptor is faulty and obtain another or that the original article was BS.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Acer Aspire One - replacing/upgrading 8GB SSD
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 11:34:36 am »
Are you SURE the Transcend CF cards are "Fixed Disk Mode" models ?

It may pay you to get one of these:
http://www.systo.co.uk/storage/card-readers/delock-ide-to-compact-flash-cardreader-91624.html

and attach it to a PC that has an IDE interface to check the cards are in "fixed disk mode", and format them if necessary
(some people have suggested they won't be detected unless formatted)
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