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[SOLVED] Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« on: March 26, 2013, 05:38:24 pm »
I am trying to install Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM, following this page http://reviews.omabc.com/software/os/ubuntu/install-ubuntu-oracle-vm-virtualbox#addiso
But I can't see the 'ADD' option... So, I'm stuck.
Anyone got ANY ideas?
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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2013, 06:34:34 pm »
IIRC, if you've already created the VM, just start it .. it will prompt you for an installation disk, point it t the mint.iso

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2013, 07:14:24 pm »
From what I see once you have the VM set up click file then from the drop down menu select "Virtual Media Manager" "ADD" should be one of the options




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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2013, 08:41:55 pm »
When you say Oracle VM , you mean Virtual box?

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2013, 09:48:27 pm »
IIRC, if you've already created the VM, just start it .. it will prompt you for an installation disk, point it t the mint.iso

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Yep, that worked  :) How do I install it properly in the VM, do I just go through the process of installing as if it was a 'real' install?

From what I see once you have the VM set up click file then from the drop down menu select "Virtual Media Manager" "ADD" should be one of the options




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See screenshot...

When you say Oracle VM , you mean Virtual box?

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2013, 10:02:54 pm »
Mmm, I'm still failing to understand why anyone would use this in preference to KVM .. ??

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2013, 10:15:57 pm »
If my memory serves me right I think you select "New" then browse to the .iso from there and install






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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2013, 10:19:15 pm »
Why, What's the difference?
A VM's a VM isnít it?

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 10:22:37 pm »
If my memory serves me right I think you select "New" then browse to the .iso from there and install






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That's the way Mark explained...

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 10:46:51 pm »
Here's a condensed guide from an opensuse site maybe you check through it and see you haven't missed a step

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Open VirtualBox and click on the New button and then Next and then enter a name for your virtual machine.
Then select the correct Operating System type and the Version from the respective drop down menus and then Next.
Select the amount of memory that will be allocated to the guest OS.
Warning Leave a sufficient amount for host OS itself
Select Create new hard disk and click next, a new wizard will pop up.
Follow the guide and select either a Dynamically expanding storage or a Fixed-size storage
Select the initial size of it. Then click on the Finish button.
Click on the Next button and then the Finish button.
Select your newly created virtual machine in the VirtualBox main interface and then click on Start.
The "First Run Wizard" will pop up.
Tell VirtualBox which ISO image file is to be used by selecting ISO Image File and use "Virtual Media Manager" to add your ISO image.
The virtual machine will now boot from the image and you should proceed with the OS installation.


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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 11:18:54 pm »
Quote from: pooky2483
How do I install it properly in the VM, do I just go through the process of installing as if it was a 'real' install?

YES

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Mmm, I'm still failing to understand why anyone would use this in preference to KVM .. ??

Virtualbox and VMware don't require hardware virtualisation support from the CPU (VT-X/AMD-V) .. KVM does.

Not to mention only techie types are aware of KVM ;)

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 12:22:00 am »
Quote from: pooky2483
How do I install it properly in the VM, do I just go through the process of installing as if it was a 'real' install?

YES

Quote from: Mad Penguin
Mmm, I'm still failing to understand why anyone would use this in preference to KVM .. ??

Virtualbox and VMware don't require hardware virtualisation support from the CPU (VT-X/AMD-V) .. KVM does.

Not to mention only techie types are aware of KVM ;)

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So.... Youíre saying the one I'm using is one of the two that is the better of the three?

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 12:43:46 am »
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So.... Youíre saying the one I'm using is one of the two that is the better of the three?


Erm .. NO, I'm most definitely not saying that .. I'm just pointing out there are certain usage cases where KVM may not be an option, and there's certainly going to be more "newb" style tutorials available for VirtualBox and VMWare.
(though there's probably better "technical" documentation for KVM)

In Linux, KVM is probably going to be "best", if by "best" you mean the most tightly integrated and efficient .. hell, as it's part of the Linux kernel, you already have the important components installed :)
(think about it .. KVM = Kernel-based Virtual Machine)
http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 02:19:23 am »
Ok, KVM *does* require hardware acceleration, BUT ;

When I say "KVM", KVM is actually an extension for QEMU, and QEMU does *not* need hardware acceleration. So, if you run the "KVM" package (which is really QEMU with the KVM extension) on really old hardware (!) it just means it'll run slower (just like Virtualbox!) , but if you have something a little more modern, KVM will kick in and give you 20x the performance.

AFAIK as a heavy KVM/QEMU user and a casual Virtualbox user I see;

a. KVM is a part of Linux and hence completely free, with all features in-tact, there is no commercial option.
b. Virtualbox is a commercial product with a cut-down Open Source variant .. you get to a point where you want an advanced feature that may be available in KVM for example, then you get to pay.
c. KVM is quicker and more stable than Virtualbox, and far more integrated as it's a part of the standard Kernel.
d. Virtualbox is produced by the Evil Empire MK III, so IMHO you may as well be using a M$ product (!)

Which brings me back to "I'm failing to understand ..." ??

Also, SPICE is available on newer builds which gives you REALLY quick video on the console, not tried it myself but apparently it's good enough to watch movies (when run on a GUI inside the VM). Not sure whether Virtualbox has SPICE support?

.. given the current Sun, Java, MySQL and Open Office fiasco's , would you trust them to do anything right ??

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Re: Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 06:25:12 am »
So...
How do I go about properly uninstalling the one I've got and installing the KVM?
As I am unable to get Mint13 MATE to install whatsoever!

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