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Giving new life to old Laptop (Solved)
« on: June 25, 2013, 01:58:23 pm »
Hi Guys,
In line with a few recent posts I have an old Dell Inspiron I6400 Laptop running XP. The support for this disappears next year so I thought now might be the right time to consider and try out alternatives. I am not totally new to LInux as I am running the latest LTS Ubuntu on a Desktop I built up myself and am quite happy with this, though my knowledge is very limited. Back to the laptop, I notice a lot of talk about Peppermint and wonder if you think this is worth a shot. Can I install this alongside XP (at least initially), where and how do I get the download. If this helps my laptop has Intel Core 2CPU TS300 1.73GHz with 1.49GB Ram. The hard drive has 43GB of free space.
Please dont forget you are dealing with an "owd git" of limited comprehension so please make the answer as simple as possible, the less syllables per word the better,
Many thanks in advance of your co-operation and help.
Degsy
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 03:32:26 pm »
Peppermint would fly on that

Yes it can be installed alongside Windows

Here's their website:
http://peppermintos.com

Download the ISO image, and I'll post instructions fro creating a LiveCD/LiveUSB if you need them ?

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 04:07:10 pm »
Thanks Mark, please post the instructions for the live CD.
Presumably I can run from the live CD for a while whilst testing the OS. If I then decide to install (which is very likely) can I then run them side by side and then in the future get rid of the XP when I decide it is safe to do so?
Hope these are not too simplistic but I do like to keep it simple.
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 04:15:20 pm »
Hi Degsy

I have Peppermint 3 running on an old Dell Latitude with a bit less horsepower than yours and Mark's right it flies



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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 04:19:57 pm »
Use ImgBurn to burn the ISO image to disk (CD or DVD):
http://download.imgburn.com/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe

Tutorial for burning an ISO image to CD/DVD with ImgBurn here:
http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/G/Burning+ISO+Images+with+ImgBurn

Hint - On the second picture, where it says
Write Speed: MAX
Change it to
Write Speed: X4



Be aware, running from a LiveCD won't allow you to save any system settings etc. .. so you'll have to enter your wireless key each time you boot.
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2013, 04:32:45 pm »
Thanks again Mark, also thanks Graeme for the confirmation about the speed of performance, I will get on and burn the ISO image and then try it from the Live CD. Will come back if I encounter any problems.
Thanks again for your always prompt and easily understood answers.
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2013, 04:39:15 pm »
Quick question, should I be trying Peppermint 4, will this go on my machine, I noticed that some had problems with it (for reasons I don't  understand), I have started the download but can always go to Peppermint 3 if necessary.

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2013, 04:48:46 pm »
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Quick question, should I be trying Peppermint 4, will this go on my machine, I noticed that some had problems with it (for reasons I don't  understand), I have started the download but can always go to Peppermint 3 if necessary.

There's no reason not to try Peppermint 4, I couldn't install Peppermint  4  to my old Dell because of PAE issues, (you may have already read that thread), if your Laptop is the same you will know as soon as you try to load the live CD, you'll get an error message informing you that your CPU doesn't support PAE, if that turns out to be the case, you'll likely have to turn to Peppermint 3 which should install without any problems.

Peppermint 3 is a very good distro based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS so is good for a few years yet


Once again Good luck



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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 04:53:32 pm »
Thank you Graeme, will try out the Version 4. Yes I had read the other thread, even though as I said a fair bit of it went over my head but I got the gist there was a problem on certain  machines. Will let you know if I encounter any problems.

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 07:05:24 pm »
Sorry, got called away

No you're CPU has PAE support, so Peppermint 4 will be fine :)

Indeed you should probably be getting the 64bit version, then you won't be using PAE anyway .. but if you have already downloaded the 32bit version, that's fine on your hardware too :)



Explanation -

PAE = Physical Address Extensions

32bit OS's can only access 4GB (really more like 3.7) of RAM .. PAE overcomes this limitation of 32bit memory addressing .. but it requires the CPU to support PAE, and the 32bit OS to have a PAE enabled kernel

64bit OS's don't have the limitation in the first place .. but obviously need a 64bit CPU

just a few old 32bit CPU's are still being used in old hardware that don't support PAE, and Peppermint 4 no longer has a NON-PAE kernel .. so anyone with one of these is stuck.

Your Core2 CPU is fully 64bit, but still has 32bit PAE support .. so can run either 64bit, 32bit with PAE or 32bit non-pae kernels, so it doesn't matter which you get :)

Still clear as mud ? .. read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 07:53:49 pm »
Hi Mark,
Thanks for your advice, I have been having some problems with my internet connection so not done the download yet. Will give the 64 bit version a try and see how it goes, if I can sort out the problem with my connection.
Once again, many thanks for your prompt replies.

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 08:23:35 pm »
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 08:34:30 pm »
Just a quick update, downloaded and burned a live DVD using 64 bit Peppermint 4 and it booted up fine on the Inspiron 6400, so now its just a question of having the time to sort out the internet connection for it and then evaluate the system. All being well looks like there is plenty of life left in my Dell Laptop!
Yippee :)


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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 09:36:25 pm »
Remember, Pepperminthas very few apps INSTALLED by default, it uses shortcuts to web apps, but there is NOTHING stopping you from installing local applications as well or instead of the web apps.

That's one of the things I love about Peppermint .. it doesn't start you off with a load of apps installed that suited someone else, I'm not a huge fan of web apps, but I view Peppermint as a fully working "starting point" where I install just the apps "I" want.
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2013, 07:10:47 am »
Excuse me for butting in. Whats PAE ?
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