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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2013, 07:17:15 am »
Hi Bill

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Excuse me for butting in. Whats PAE ?


Mark gave a fairly in depth description on a previous post on this thread but here it is again
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Explanation -

PAE = Physical Address Extensions

32bit OS's can only access 4GB (really more like 3.7) of RAM .. PAE overcomes this limitation of 32bit memory addressing .. but it requires the CPU to support PAE, and the 32bit OS to have a PAE enabled kernel

64bit OS's don't have the limitation in the first place .. but obviously need a 64bit CPU

just a few old 32bit CPU's are still being used in old hardware that don't support PAE, and Peppermint 4 no longer has a NON-PAE kernel .. so anyone with one of these is stuck.

Your Core2 CPU is fully 64bit, but still has 32bit PAE support .. so can run either 64bit, 32bit with PAE or 32bit non-pae kernels, so it doesn't matter which you get

Still clear as mud ? .. read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 07:19:14 am by Emegra »
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2013, 07:03:48 pm »
Hi Guys,
Just to let you know that the Live DVD is working fine, this is being sent using the Dell Laptop and Peppermint 4. If and when I decide to actually install Peppermint 4 I think I may go dual boot initially, is there an idiots guide to actually doing dual boot, as all this business of Partitions is new to me. Anything I can read up on would be a great help.

Many thanks, as always.

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2013, 08:56:58 pm »
Hi Degsy
 Running the installer for dual boot is really quite straightforward, believe me if this idiot can do it you can do it, during the install process you'll be asked if you want to use the entire disk or install alongside Windows, select "Install alongside Windows" then there's a very simple partition size slide tool and the rest is really quite self explanatory

That said I would definitely backup any important data/files you have to a cd or usb drive first just to be on the safe side

Here's a simple easy to understand step by step guide for Ubuntu, Peppermint uses the same installer

http://thetechjournal.com/how-to/ubuntu-12-10-how-to-install-alongside-with-windows.xhtml


Good luck


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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2013, 10:11:49 pm »
Thanks Graeme, will have a study of the link provided and then as you say will back up all that I think is necessary, then onward with the dual boot.

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2013, 07:21:13 pm »
Can you please advise on the size of partition I should allow for Peppermint 4, I have 40GB free space on my hard drive. Does the installation automatically carry out the partitioning?

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2013, 08:20:01 pm »
What do you mean by "40GB free space" .. do you mean

a) 40GB of unpartitioned space
or
b) 40GB of unused space left in the Windows partition

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2013, 08:25:27 pm »
40GB left in the windows partition

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2013, 09:11:16 pm »
What's the total size of your hard drive ?
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2013, 09:20:30 pm »
120 GB

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2013, 09:36:39 pm »
if your drive is 120gb and there's only 40gb left then Windows is taking up a huge chunk of that drive

Is there any way you can reduce the Windows size ie is there any programs you no longer need that can be un-installed or unnecessary files you can delete (disk cleanup)

I would say you have enough space to install Peppermint 4 but it would be better if you could afford it a little more space if possible

I also believe it's a good idea to defrag the Windows partition prior to installing Linux alongside, but don't take my word for this, better to wait untill Mark or someone more savvy than me to advise you


Good luck

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2013, 10:10:29 pm »
Like Emegra said, clean up and defrag Windows before you shrink your partition (and backup any important data first)
Windows and program files could take up around 20 GiB the rest is personal data.
As for the partitioning (on my 40 GiB) HDD I got it set as:
sda1 Root = 15.62 GiB
sda2 Swap =  3.91 GiB
sda3 Home = 17.72 GiB

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2013, 06:35:54 am »
I would say that if you can't free up any space then you would have to leave Windows with some space to work with (say 10gb) which leaves 30gb for the Linux partition

That would be more than enough for Peppermint 4

Remember to back up any important data and defrag Windows first then you're good to go

So during the installation process when to get to the partition sizer give 90gb to Windows and 30gb to Linux, the installer will set up the home and swap partitions as needed


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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2013, 09:02:05 am »
Thanks for your replies and your patience, I have defrag get and backed up, I am sure I can reduce some of the "clutter" and get rid of some old stuff that I have probably not used in ages, once that is done I will follow your advice and get on with the installation.

Thanks again,
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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2013, 04:15:32 pm »
Managed to "get rid of" 15GB of stuff so much more room now, thanks for the advice.
One last question, do I install after running the Live DVD or go straight to Install Peppermint from the first screen?

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Re: Giving new life to old Laptop
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2013, 05:06:54 pm »
I would say it's best to run from the live session :)


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