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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2013, 04:56:06 pm »
Does the PM4 LiveCD work with the nvidia card ?

it may need the

nomodeset

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or it may not.
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2013, 05:10:06 pm »
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Hmm .. we could be at this forever, now whilst I hate to give up I also sometimes have to concede that a reinstall would be quicker .. what do you want to do ?

I'm glad you've said this because enough is enough because if we don't know what caused this problem in the first place how do we know it wont happen again I don't know about you but I really don't want to put myself through this again

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We could go through the logs, we could probably reinstall xorg/nvidia/lightdm/etc. .. but as it works with the PCI card, I'm not convinced there's a problem with those.

Another wild goose chase

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I think a reinstall with the nvidia card, but without fixing the splash screen may be the best way forward

probably the best option but I've had enough

 meantime Linux Lite is working fine I've got everything configured the way she wants (well almost :) ) and it's actually quite nice and the missus likes it although I'd prefer Peppermint we can live with that.

 
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I'm quite willing to keep trying if you'd prefer though ?

I know you are but some things are not meant to be fixed and I think this is one of them I get that in my business as well so maybe better leaving it at that but in spite of that i have some issues with LL I hope you wont mind helping me with ?

Thank you so much for your efforts, no one can accuse you for not trying :)

Many thanks


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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #92 on: August 17, 2013, 05:12:53 pm »
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Does the PM4 LiveCD work with the nvidia card ?

it may need the

nomodeset

option

or it may not.

Yes Mark I'm sure it did but only with the nomodset xforcevesa option
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2013, 05:17:03 pm »
It'll be the nomodeset that worked with the LiveCD then.

I think it was the addition of the framebuffer that probably caused the issue in the first place .. which may not have been necessary, as we *should* have made sure nvidia-xconfig had created an xorg.conf file (or just stuck with the open source drivers as SeZo suggested).

Anywho .. good luck with LL or if you choose to reinstall PM (be that 3 or 4) :)

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Did we ever get round to turning PM3 into PM4 (as far as the xfwm4 window manager was concerned) ?

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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2013, 05:33:24 pm »
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Did we ever get round to turning PM3 into PM4 (as far as the xfwm4 window manager was concerned) ?

No we didn't, we considered that on my laptop because I couldn't install PM4 due to PAE restrictions

I'm not against trying anything even if it was just for the purpose of experimentation as I said she has LL running fine on a separate HDD so she's not without a PC.
so I'm really open to any suggestion, but I've just got to the stage (like I did with the last issue i had) where I don't want to waste another minute of my life or yours trying to fix the unfixable
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2013, 05:42:43 pm »
Well what you want to do next is your decision .. I'm (as always) here to help if necessary though.

I only really added that in case you wanted to use PM3 instead of PM4, but like the looks of PM4 and the snapping feature ... I jsut didn't want you to think PM4 was the only option if the nvidia card has been proven to work with PM3 better.

Have you tried the nvidia card with a PM3 LiveCD ?

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Come to think of it, there's no need to go with Peppermint at all if you'd prefer something else .. don't for one minute think you need to use Peppermint just because of me.

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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #96 on: August 17, 2013, 05:56:52 pm »
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. I jsut didn't want you to think PM4 was the only option if the nvidia card has been proven to work with PM3 better.

are you saying it does work better with PM3

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Have you tried the nvidia card with a PM3 LiveCD ?

I really don't know there's so many things we've tried but I'm pretty certain it would

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Come to think of it, there's no need to go with Peppermint at all if you'd prefer something else .. don't for one minute think you need to use Peppermint just because of me.

I know I like to try other distros and I've 'tried a few others such as Zorin. Bodhie Mint etc and i genuinely find Peppermint suits my needs beat I'm not saying it's better than the others just that it suits me better because if I was to use a phrase to describe Peppermint I would  be "functional simplicity".

of all the other distros I've tried i like Linux Lite the best and i like the idea oh having 2 different distros to work with is a good idea so I'm happy to use that meantime and if you want want we can sex up PM3


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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #97 on: August 17, 2013, 06:10:14 pm »
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are you saying it does work better with PM3

No I'm not .. I'm saying I don't know .. but you seem to suggest it works OK in a 12..04 based distro, so I was just going along with that ;)

You decide what you want to do, and I'll help you do it if necessary .. I'm just giving you options .. it's not my decision.

And there's no way I'm opening myself up for a "it's your fault" ;) .. that's one of the few things I hate about having helped with PM4, I tend to feel guilty when anyone has a problem, even when it's down to something I have no control over.

Sometimes I even feel like talking people out of it .. but that would be selfish, as I honestly reckon it's at least as good as if not better than PM3.

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Yet as with all distros with a new code base/kernel .. that may not apply to ALL hardware setups.
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #98 on: August 17, 2013, 06:55:47 pm »
Ok thanks again :)
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #99 on: August 17, 2013, 07:04:16 pm »
Ignore my rantings ;) .. I'm happy to help whichever way forward you choose .. except of course with WinLOL :)
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2013, 07:09:32 pm »
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except of course with WinLOL

I wouldn't dare  :D
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2013, 07:20:06 pm »
Heh .. I'll bet you wouldn't, at least not after that PM rant of mine .. this damn headache probably isn't helping my mood any today, sorry if that's spilling over  :o

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I said "PM rant" not "PMT rant" ;)

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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2013, 07:25:33 pm »
No problem Mark, I'm not surprised you've got a headache with the problems I give you, I think you need to get away from computers for a while  and chill with a bottle of JD :)
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Re: Screen crash then no boot
« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2013, 07:33:16 pm »
You're obviously a man of taste that knows how to string a plan together :)
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