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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2013, 06:24:44 pm »
@ Degsy

NO .. Jupiter is no longer supported as the later kernels alreay handle power management better .. but installing TLP will also help

Post a new topic, and I'll tell you how to install tlp
(it's NOT in the repo's)

Or see here:
http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/how-to-improve-laptop-power-management.html
and/or here:
http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html

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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2013, 06:26:25 pm »
Installing the Jupiter power management application

This is an optional install, but I recommend it for laptops, as when you switch from mains power to battery power, the Jupiter panel applet will switch your CPU into power saving mode, which will make your battery last longer.

Open a terminal and run
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/jupiter
then
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sudo apt-get update
then
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sudo apt-get install jupiter

Now REBOOT (to load the application) .. you'll then see a new icon by the clock that looks like a lightening bolt .. when you unplug the mains power, this icon should change to reflect it has set the CPU to "Power Saving" mode, when you plug it back in, it should switch to "Maximum Performance" mode.

You can also switch modes manually by clicking the lightning bolt icon, and selecting the "Performance" mode.

Be aware .. with certain laptops, the switching to "Power Saving" isn't 100% accurate .. so when you unplug your laptop from the mains to run on battery for an extended period, visually check the icon has changed to "Power Saving" mode, if it hasn't, do it manually .. and if necessary switch it back to "Performance" when the laptop is plugged in.

Ok done all that thanks Mark.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2013, 06:30:02 pm »
OK, now you need to have a play and see if you can find any of the applications we installed that don't work.

In particular, check youtube videos work .. and audio.

Also decide on any tweaks you may want, like changing that damned ugly wallpaper, and adding any application icons to the desktop.

I'm going to say DO NOT install any of the dock bars .. 704mb RAM aint enough for those .. maybe later, if you get some more RAM (and the graphics card is up to the job).

I'll probably be offline for an hour or two now .. but will be back later .. so let me know anything you find that needs tweaking.

Also remind me about adding compton to pretty up the menu's etc. a little with some drop shadows.

Oh, and can you post the FULL (it may need you to scroll in the terminal a bit to get it all) output from:
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inxi -F
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2013, 08:26:48 pm »
Dinner and shower time etc- will be back on about 9.30 Mark and do the terminal command. A few things to look at on Peppermint also- but nothing major.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2013, 09:39:14 pm »
All systems are running well with the exception of the videos- VLC and BBC iplayer play videos but they are running slow (lagging? ). The sound is behind the moving images. Picture quality is not bad but not as clear as on the netbook.
I am logging back into the laptop in a minute and will do the terminal command and post a pic of my desktop. Had a tweak of it.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2013, 09:55:30 pm »
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2013, 10:23:40 pm »
inxi -F
System:    Host: melissa-HP-Compaq-nx6325-RH628ES-ABU Kernel: 3.2.0-51-generic i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.5.0) Distro: Peppermint Three
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Compaq nx6325 (RH628ES#ABU) version: F.03
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30B0 version: KBC Version 40.15
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 68TT2 Ver. F.03 date: 10/11/2006
CPU:       Single core Mobile AMD Sempron 3400+ (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) clocked at 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
           X.Org: 1.11.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Audio:     Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.24
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet driver: tg3
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Partition: ID: / size: 37G used: 3.7G (11%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 0.74GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: 26.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2013, 10:30:46 pm »
OK, the graphics card aint up to much, but will be fine for most things as long as you don't expect miracles.

It looks like the CPU is being throttled back (which will affect how well flash works) .. are you back on battery only (unplugged), and/or is Jupiter set to "Power Saving" ?

When using flash, probably best to make sure Jupiter is set to "Performance".

Also understand flash is majorly CPU and RAM intensive, so only having 704Mb RAM, and the CPU throttled by Jupiter will both impact flash performance .. which I wouldn't expect to be anywhere near as good as on your netbook anyway.

Your netbook will have a single core, but dual threaded CPU and a more recent graphics card .. as well as more RAM.

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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2013, 10:49:04 pm »

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OK, the graphics card aint up to much, but will be fine for most things as long as you don't expect miracles.

I thought that might be the case. Is it old? Maybe I could get a new one in the future because this laptop has a big 12 inch x 9 inch screen so it would be nice to watch DVDs and videos on it. The netbook is smaller but I don't mind that much. But for DVDs I have a very teeny portable DVD player. It is cute but I have been mostly using it to play CDS on as with speakers it is better sound wise than my CD player.


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It looks like the CPU is being throttled back (which will affect how well flash works) .. are you back on battery only (unplugged), and/or is Jupiter set to "Power Saving" ?


I was yes and on battery but now plugged in and back to performance.


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When using flash, probably best to make sure Jupiter is set to "Performance".

Will do.


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Also understand flash is majorly CPU and RAM intensive, so only having 704Mb RAM, and the CPU throttled by Jupiter will both impact flash performance .. which I wouldn't expect to be anywhere near as good as on your netbook anyway.


I thought that might be it- not sure how old this laptop is but it does look at least 5 years old, maybe more. How much RAM should I aim to have put on?



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Your netbook will have a single core, but dual threaded CPU and a more recent graphics card .. as well as more RAM.


Honestly Mark- that little netbook is a powerhouse for its size- really the best computer I have had so far! I like this one too, but this is going to be more for watching films/programmes and  a back up ( esp winter nghts under the duvet in bed).  Also good for if I have any work to prepare- typing/studies cos of its big screen.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2013, 11:18:10 pm »
You cannot upgrade the graphics card of most laptops, certainly one with a Semperon CPU .. some top of the range laptops have removeable cards, but most have the graphics card integrated onto the motherboard, which can't be replaced.

RAM .. Personally I'd like at least 1Gb (1000Mb) .. but it the role this laptop is going to be used, I probably wouldn't bother upgrading from what you have .. unless some RAM dropped into my hands free.

DVD's and Video's (non flash) are not realy CPU, RAM, or Graphics intensive .. so this system will probably be OK for that.

Word processing is also not resource intensive :)

As long as you don't have multiple webpages open, all with flash content .. or install something like flashblock in Firefox, you should be fine

And don't expect this laptop to be a games machine ;)

But it will probably do most things you throw at it reasonably.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2013, 11:37:52 pm »

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You cannot upgrade the graphics card of most laptops, certainly one with a Semperon CPU .. some top of the range laptops have removeable cards, but most have the graphics card integrated onto the motherboard, which can't be replaced.

I didn't know that- thanks for the info.


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RAM .. Personally I'd like at least 1Gb (1000Mb) .. but it the role this laptop is going to be used, I probably wouldn't bother upgrading from what you have .. unless some RAM dropped into my hands free.


How do I find out what RAM the netbook is? Just for a comparison.


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DVD's and Video's (non flash) are not realy CPU, RAM, or Graphics intensive .. so this system will probably be OK for that.


Just watched you tube- that is running well. Online radio plays well.BBc iplayer is running fine now I changed the Jupiter setting.

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Word processing is also not resource intensive :)


No..remember WINDOWS 98? lol....



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As long as you don't have multiple webpages open, all with flash content .. or install something like flashblock in Firefox, you should be fine


I don't know what flashblock is.


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And don't expect this laptop to be a games machine ;)


I only play Penguin Tux racer and he is on the netbook. :)


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But it will probably do most things you throw at it reasonably.

Great, I cannot complain really getting a free laptop and new Linux OS. Happy with it so far Mark and very grateful for all your help.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2013, 12:01:59 am »
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How do I find out what RAM the netbook is? Just for a comparison.

This will tell you how much RAM you have .. total/used/free:
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free -m

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I don't know what flashblock is.

flashblock is a Firefox plugin that does what it says .. it blocks flash from playing unless you specifically click on a flash object and tell it to play.

So if you visit a page with 4 flash videos on it .. they don't all start playing automagically ..  it also block a lot of adverts that are flash based.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2013, 12:10:07 am »
Thanks- it has more total RAM than the laptop but not much more free RAM.
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2013, 12:35:31 am »
As I said .. Mint is MUCH heavier than Peppermint ;)
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Re: Peppermint 3
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2013, 12:39:01 am »
As I said .. Mint is MUCH heavier than Peppermint ;)

Once  the LUG guys install the new HD then we can Peppermint it.However, both of my computers run as fast as each other except for the netbook booting up faster.


Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously
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