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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2013, 07:47:15 am »
I have been on my 'Soap Box' for years about this. I don't care what google say they have basically become a spying arm of the CIA.  OK so it's all well and good when terrorism or Paedophiles are concerned but the bigger issue is commerce and industrial espionage.  Every big nation is at it.  China being one of the worst.  I  bet Baidu was created to try and stop Google (sorry the CIA) getting commercial information.

So as for Andriod.  It is a very useful operating system (Linux) that has been abused and corrupted to fuel commercial info for Google. It is a (IMHO) unstable and insecure operating system that has opened the door for nasties to invade which is the opposite to what Linux is.  Although not a great fan of Mark Shuttleworth (Don't ban me for mentioning his name)  ;)  I want  his Ubuntu mobile to take off.........seems dead in it's tracks already though.  Still....might give this a go.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid

Not really mobile but it's interesting.

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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2013, 10:22:44 am »
Mmm ...

Dear iMac / Windows laptop owner , or anyone with a commercial OS and a machine with a built-in webcam;

Did you know the camera could be turned on remotely without your knowledge?

And you know that little green LED that lets you know you're "safe" because when it's not lit the camera is "off" ... well ...

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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2013, 10:33:00 am »
Hi Mad Penguin.

Had a look at your Sailfish link.  Downloaded 64 bit Linux but it will not execute.  Any ideas?
Peppermint 4, 64 bit,8gig ram.

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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 12:12:31 pm »
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Downloaded 64 bit Linux but it will not execute.  Any ideas?

Did you set the executable permission?
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Get the toolkit

Download the 32 bit or 64 bit Linux installer. Set executable
permissions and run it.

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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 01:54:21 pm »
Done that Sezo.

It doesn't have the normal permissions tick box just who is allowed to access it.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 03:31:48 pm »
OK, if you have the SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-Qt5-linux-64-offline.run file .. create a folder on your desktop called SailfishSDK and put that file in it.

Open a terminal and run:
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cd ~/Desktop/SailfishSDK
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chmod +x SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-Qt5-linux-64-offline.run
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2013, 07:52:16 am »
It says "Cannot execute binary file" after the last command.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2013, 02:17:45 pm »
Maybe it's corrupt .. try downloading it again.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2013, 08:40:49 pm »
Mmm, I'm thinking private networks could be the next big thing, i.e. your own encrypted organisational network running on top of the physical Internet .. and of course your own servers .. none of this GMail business where Uncle Sam etc essentially have your password.

I am a little surprised that Google didn't see this issue coming when they put SO much resource into developing GMail and their online application suite. If the govt has full access to everything online, how much stuff do you "really" want leaving your office?

I guess the problem is that security is just way beyond your average user .. which is worrying for security in general and I would have thought even more worrying for them (!)

"tinc" would be ideal for this, it's essentially a p2p VPN product. (OS of course)
Works very well, completely transparent when configured .. and should scale to '000's of nodes ..
Maybe this is the answer...

Tor (originally short for The Onion Router) is free software for enabling online anonymity. Tor directs Internet traffic through a free, worldwide volunteer network consisting of more than three thousand relays to conceal a user's location or usage from anyone conducting network surveillance or traffic analysis. Using Tor makes it more difficult to trace Internet activity, including "visits to Web sites, online posts, instant messages and other communication forms", back to the user and is intended to protect users' personal privacy, freedom, and ability to conduct confidential business by keeping their internet activities from being monitored.
"Onion Routing" refers to the layers of the encryption used. The original data, including its destination, are encrypted and re-encrypted multiple times, and sent through a virtual circuit comprising successive, randomly selected Tor relays. Each relay decrypts a "layer" of encryption to reveal only the next relay in the circuit in order to pass the remaining encrypted data on to it. The final relay decrypts the last layer of encryption and sends the original data, without revealing or even knowing its sender, to the destination. This method reduces the chance of the original data being understood in transit and, more notably, conceals the routing of it.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2013, 08:41:23 pm »
Don't know what happened there
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2013, 08:43:52 pm »
Sorry
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2013, 09:30:37 pm »
Mmm, TOR sounds great, but there are problems ..

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/11/30/1521208/raided-for-running-a-tor-exit-node

Because it's public, it will be abused .. I'm thinking more for legal activity, but done 'privately', rather than in full-view if the NSA et al.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2013, 09:35:55 pm »
Plus a lot of servers actively try to block TOR proxies.
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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2013, 11:35:31 pm »
Dear Mr NSA, as we've now (probably) set off all of your alarms by repeatedly using acronyms for various US bases security services, please could you take a look at the following link and maybe forward it on to someone who can do something. Y'know, as it's a REAL problem that's likely to screw the entire planet if something isn't done fairly urgently .. maybe a bit more interesting than what I had for breakfast?! (it was eggs again)

http://www.examiner.com/article/fukushima-update-august-12-2013

Oh, wait .. the mainstream media aren't reporting this .. which means it's probably the subject of a DA-Notice.
In which case, as you or your buddies probably issued it, please can you tell us WHY ?!

It's amazing what you can find on the Internet if you look, maybe someone in the US government could comment on this one;

Fukishima seawater radiation plume
Fukishima seawater radiation plume

I'm just off to buy a geiger counter ...

... [this particular plot isn't real, but I'd love to see what the real one looks like!]


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Re: Alternatives to Android ...
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2013, 01:45:32 am »
And here begins the next phase of evolution .. who knows, maybe world food shortages will be a thing of the past .. 7 headed 50 foot sardines will feed a lot of glow in the dark people you know .. or possibly a new spin on "fish fingers"  :o

WE'RE GONNA NEED BIGGER BOATS  :o

Not to mention those Japanese whalers may be in for quite a shock :)

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