Author Topic: A question about hackers  (Read 2015 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2013, 11:10:23 pm »
Keith :: call blocking / harassment isn't that easy to set up ...

Melissa :: crowd sourcing, effectively split up a large job (or sometimes the cost of said job) between very many people ... "Many hands make .. etc ..". In this case, some thing like "there is someone on YOUR street who is operating a scam. As someone local, we would like you to ...".

Might require a dedicated Darknet for comms .. ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Sounds a bit technical that.
In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

Offline Mad Penguin

  • #Mad_Penguin_UK
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1318
  • Karma: 10016
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Linux in the UK
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2013, 11:11:25 pm »
Dear Mr NSA, there's going to be a revolution in the UK and I'll be started by penguins!

- there, that'll give 'em something to think about!  ... ;-)

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

https://twitter.com/#!/Mad_Penguin_UK

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2013, 11:13:33 pm »
Yeah, you're right about the call blocking - only works if you know the number. As for the tech stuff you mention, I'm out of my depth. 

@Melissa:  It might sound a like drastic solution, but have you considered changing your number?  If you hassle your 'phone provider enough (mentioning a possible change of provider and You & Yours on Radio 4) they will probably do it cheaply. 
From a nuisance point of view, it's no worse than changing one's Email address and people do that all the time.

At the risk of exciting the Paranoid Penguin (sorry MP  ;)) I would suggest the MaskMe Premium service maskme://index.html/# at $5/month.  You get all their other services as well, such MaskMe for Email, etc.  Depends what value one puts on not being hassled.


I don't think changing my no will do it as there are many other Mrs Hardwickes- I was told by the plod that there are are computers used by these crooks who computate numbers til they find a phone that rings.

In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2013, 11:16:10 pm »
Personally I don't think this is a winnable battle .. whilst governments consider corporate interests more important than an individuals rights.

The ONLY way this will change is WHEN THE PEOPLE RISE UP AND START THE REVOLU........ Oh, for heavens sake mark get real, people are currently bothered more by loosing facebook for a couple of hours than the creeping erosion of their rights.

I despise corporates!!! I am with you that Revolution is long overdue- but Mark people are getting right fed up worldwide- look at all the Occupys, anti frackers.....if the world's population stood up the suits would have no chance.
In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

Offline Keith

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 369
  • Karma: 3
  • Gender: Male
  • Linux Novice
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2013, 05:59:46 pm »
Quote
I don't think changing my [phone number] will do it as there are many other Mrs Hardwickes- I was told by the plod that there are are computers used by these crooks who computate numbers til they find a phone that rings.

Another trick that often works is to say to the telephone spammer "Just a moment, please", lay the handset down so as not to disconnect the call and go and make a cup of tea.  They soon get fed up with waiting and in my experience don't bother again as they are wasting their time, not yours.

Offline Mad Penguin

  • #Mad_Penguin_UK
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1318
  • Karma: 10016
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Linux in the UK
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2013, 11:16:22 pm »
Mmm, going one stage further if you use asterisk to answer your calls you can confuse them with your own circular IVR menus .. :-)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

https://twitter.com/#!/Mad_Penguin_UK

Online Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12465
  • Karma: 306
  • Gender: Male
  • "-rw-rw-rw-" .. The Number Of The Beast
    • View Profile
    • PCNetSpec
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2013, 11:38:21 pm »
Thanks for your call, please press ..

1 to talk to yourself whilst I play you some really bad 70's elevator music

2 to talk to the window salesman I have waiting on the other line

3 to be permanently put on hold, giving you time to contemplate how annoying your call is

4 to be redirected to trading standards

5 to listen to an audio loop of me telling you what I think of cold callers

* to hear this menu again
or
# to f**k off and leave me alone

--
« Last Edit: September 16, 2013, 11:40:46 pm by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) »
WARNING: You are logged into reality as 'root'

logging in as 'insane' is the only safe option.

Offline Mad Penguin

  • #Mad_Penguin_UK
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1318
  • Karma: 10016
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Linux in the UK
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2013, 12:44:52 am »
Ahh, I see you have asterisk set up already!  ;-)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

https://twitter.com/#!/Mad_Penguin_UK

Online Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12465
  • Karma: 306
  • Gender: Male
  • "-rw-rw-rw-" .. The Number Of The Beast
    • View Profile
    • PCNetSpec
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2013, 02:51:33 am »
Asterisk are planning a version of their PBX software for Windows admins and calling it "star" to minimise confusion ;)
(whilst in development it goes by the codename "Shift+8")

--
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 04:17:14 pm by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) »
WARNING: You are logged into reality as 'root'

logging in as 'insane' is the only safe option.

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2013, 10:57:20 am »
Quote
I don't think changing my [phone number] will do it as there are many other Mrs Hardwickes- I was told by the plod that there are are computers used by these crooks who computate numbers til they find a phone that rings.

Another trick that often works is to say to the telephone spammer "Just a moment, please", lay the handset down so as not to disconnect the call and go and make a cup of tea.  They soon get fed up with waiting and in my experience don't bother again as they are wasting their time, not yours.

I was thinking of that or pretending to be mad and reciting a nonsene ryhme over and over til they put the phone down- after all they talk nonsense to me and won't answer my questions. Then there is my Grandad's old police whistle.... ;D
In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 10:58:29 am »
Thanks for your call, please press ..

1 to talk to yourself whilst I play you some really bad 70's elevator music

2 to talk to the window salesman I have waiting on the other line

3 to be permanently put on hold, giving you time to contemplate how annoying your call is

4 to be redirected to trading standards

5 to listen to an audio loop of me telling you what I think of cold callers

* to hear this menu again
or
# to f**k off and leave me alone

--

I like it!
In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

Offline Tramlink

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 609
  • Karma: 12
  • Gender: Male
  • Is the mist clearing
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2013, 09:28:03 am »
Hi to all,  if the company you are dealing with is based in any of the 27 EU member states then they must ask you if they can store your details.  They must also state there privacy policy and it must comply with European Law.

No one can sell your details without your say so unless it is in the public domain.

The problems start in that we never check the small print for example if you give your details to one company you may have agreed to give them to 10 other companies in the same group.

My mother always told me always read before signing..........

Online Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12465
  • Karma: 306
  • Gender: Male
  • "-rw-rw-rw-" .. The Number Of The Beast
    • View Profile
    • PCNetSpec
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2013, 11:36:47 am »
Quote
No one can sell your details without your say so unless it is in the public domain.

The REAL problem is the above is COMPLETELY ignored, with the certain knowledge that you'll not be able to backtrack it to who released it into the public domain in the first place.

You'd have to be insane to think they take any notice of that .. your details are a commodity .. they ARE being sold .. end of.

Besides the fact you'd never know how it got into the public domain, can't you see the built in flaw in -

Quote
if the company you are dealing with is based in any of the 27 EU member states .. [snip] .. No one can sell your details without your say so unless it is in the public domain

???
« Last Edit: September 18, 2013, 11:50:14 am by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) »
WARNING: You are logged into reality as 'root'

logging in as 'insane' is the only safe option.

Offline Melissa

  • Vintage geek
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
  • Karma: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • I am fairly new to Linux
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: A question about hackers
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2013, 01:43:00 pm »
Mark is right- we who the control freaks like to call "the consumer" have no rights over our "details." I am now getting my mobile called- a call came from an 0845 no and when I answered there was a recorded message from an "insurance company."
In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows?

Using two computers- Peppermint on old HP laptop and Mint on new Dell netbook.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal