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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2013, 10:24:50 pm »
Thanks again SeZo. I have had a look through my manual and there are 3 different ways to sort this problem.
I have re-installed XP and will flash the Bios tomorrow, I will also make a floppy to save the BIOS settings/startup.

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Don W
PS I will have a look at the manual you posted now.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2013, 10:26:53 pm »
What makes you think you need to flash the BIOS ?

I SERIOUSLY wouldn't flash the BIOS unless it's absolutely necessary.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2013, 10:27:04 pm »
I have not suggested to re-flash your BIOS, all you need is to re-set some of the lost settings. :o

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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2013, 12:24:19 pm »
Hi Guys,
I have had a look at the manual and put the disc in the drive but nothing happens like it says in the manual. I have shut down and will have a look this afternoon.

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Don W
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2013, 01:11:39 pm »
You don't need the disk.

Read page 66 of the manual SeZo pointed you at:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/A8V-X/e2210_a8v-x.pdf

you need to set the SATA mode to "SATA", not RAID.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2013, 06:54:25 pm »
Thanks for the advice chaps.
I don't have the facility mentioned in your manual under the Southbridge configuration.
Under 'Onboard Devices Configuration' I have
'OnChip SATA Boot ROM (Enables you to Enable or Disable the OnChip Serial ATA Boot ROM'
'Configuration Options : (DISABLED) (ENABLED)

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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2013, 07:37:27 pm »
is there a manual (probably in .pdf format) on the CD that came with your motherboard that you could email to me ?

Can you find nothing in the BIOS that mentions RAID ?
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2013, 10:57:38 pm »
Hi Mark,
Sorry about the delay, I had a visit from my young grandson, but the good news is he seems to have found a cure for the 6 or 7 minutes it takes for this machine to start up.
When he is finished he just pulls the plug :o
When I go to start the machine, I switch on at the wall socket and Windows springs to life.
If I use the 'Start', 'Shutdown' option to power off, the computer stores all manner of things (it says) before switching off.
Don't know if there is a reason for this ?

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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2013, 12:05:41 am »
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Don't know if there is a reason for this ?

Yeah, because it's Windows, and has probably tied itself in knots.

Luckily for you, (and one of the only things I'll give to Windows) their file system is pretty robust .. rubbish performing, missing tons of features, and ties itself in knots, but robust (as far as recovering from a sudden power loss).

In truth, if this is a fresh install of Windows, I'd say it's *likely* there's an HDD problem somewhere .. if it's an old installation of Windows, normal behaviour I'm afraid.

Or possibly a serious lack of RAM .. so Windows is swapping all the time - is the disk activity light flashing nearly continuously ?
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2013, 11:48:30 am »
Hi Mark,
The HD light is on almost continuously, as you  predicted.
I'm off tomorrow for a couple of weeks in Spain and intend buying a laptop when I return.
I was thinking of a Nxvxtxch without an OS, that way I can put in what I want.

take care
Don W
PS The theory didn't work as when I switched on this morning it took 6 minutes to load  :-[
Ah well, back to the drawing board  :)
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2013, 01:18:48 pm »
Well yeah, switching off suddenly will speed up shutdown (obviously) .. but will likely mark the file system as "dirty", so it will be checked at next boot, slowing bootup even more.

Plus, if the system was in the middle of installing any system updates when it suddenly lost power, it may not boot at all.

Shutting down abruptly is risky, and not really a good idea.



If the HDD activity light is on permanently (even when you're not doing much), one of 2 things is happening.

1) the HDD has some damaged sectors that the OS is having to re-read multiple times before it understands the data
or
2) You don't have enough RAM, so the system is using the HDD as RAM (which is MUCH slower)

Point 2 can be subdivided into 2 reasons

a) not enough RAM for the OS (fresh install) .. but if you're on XP with 1GB RAM, I doubt if that's the case.
and/or
b) you have that many apps loading at bootup that they're taking up all your RAM before you even get round to anything



You need to check how much RAM the system is using after booting .. and if it's accessing the swapfile ("virtual memory" in windows terms).

If everything seems OK there .. then you need to run a full disk check (including a "surface check")



Is this a NEW (fresh) install of XP .. or an old one that may have tons of crapware installed ?
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2013, 09:16:43 pm »
Hi Mark,
Sorry about the delay in replying but I have been so fed up with Windross I went to Benidorm for a couple of weeks and cooled off, slowed down, chilled out, whatever it is you young folk do nowadays.
I managed home again on Tuesday evening and decided to wait until Wednesday morning before tackling the Windross machine again.
Wednesday morning. I switched the Windross machine on and waited three and a quarter (3 1/4) hours before the machine came to life.
I collected all my mail and shut down.
I started it up again this morning and waited 4 hours before I unplugged it and took it to the PC Repair shop.
The man said he will call me when he has/if he has any results from his diagnostic checks.
I am not going to spend money on repairs.
I am thinking of buying a Novatech machine without an OS.
When I get word from the repair shop I will let you know.

take care
Don W
PS Well done on the smoking front. I stopped 12 years ago after being carted to hospital twice in 3 days with a DVT. I was extremely lucky to survive  I was told then to quit and I did immediately, I had too many things still to see and do. Please take care.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2013, 10:02:47 pm »
Hi Don .. hope you had a relaxing time in Benidorm
Oddly I can't hear the word Benidorm now without thinking of that lady on the postcode lottery commercial .. "Dennis, we're off to Benidorm" :)

Heh, yeah 3.5 - 4 hours is a tad slow even for Windows :)

Thanks for the "stopping smoking" support .. appreciated.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2013, 10:47:46 pm »
Hi Mark,
I received word today that the offending computer has a faulty power supply.
The man says he will replace the supply (30) and the machine will be as good as new.
I will collect it and let you know what it is like.
Thanks for all your help.

take care
Don W
PS Take the smoking cessation one day at a time, it does get easier.
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Re: Peppermint OS4 on a home built desktop
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2013, 10:58:52 pm »
Cheers Don :)
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