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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2014, 06:09:14 pm »
Please don't think you're wasting my time , for all the help I was anyway, I choose to try and help because I actually enjoy it and I know Mark does as well and apart from that I get to learn myself so you're not wasting my time

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so if I understand correctly does that mean I can add software to the USB provided it's less than the
persistence amount I specified at the start?

Yes you can add software in fact you do almost anything you can do if it was fully installed one difference would be that it may run a little slower than it would if it was fully installed

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I've just remembered the only problem is her laptop has only 512mb RAM but she's happy to buy more memory and it seems easy enough to fit,  perhaps best to get that first do you think?

Peppermint will run fine on 512mb of ram or at least well enough to test it so my advice would be to try it first as it is and if it works out ok then upgrade the ram

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Anyway thank you both again I do appreciate all your efforts.

For my part you're welcome :)


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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2014, 08:55:03 pm »
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In truth the answer is I don't know can I check the HDD somehow?

You could try to force fsck (file system check) on next boot using shutdown command:
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sudo shutdown -rF now
that would reboot and run fsck.

If still no luck or did not run fsck, then from a Live CD try:
From terminal on Live CD, do:
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then to list partitions:
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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2014, 02:42:16 pm »

Hi,

I've now put the CD into my friend's laptop and am running Peppermint from the disk, clearly my old PC was causing most if not all the problems
before, hopefully not any more.

Much to my pleasure it runs both YouTube and BBC iplayer with one slight problem - no sound! I've checked as far as I know what to do and can't see
why this is so - there should be sound but there ain't!! 

This laptop doesn't look as if it will boot from a USB as I've tried but to no avail - it gives boot options as DVD/LAN/FDD? and HDD. Have tried various boot sequences but it doesn't make any difference.

Also tried to use the USB on an Asus Eee pc notebook but that doesn't recognise it either.

Any ideas for sorting the sound issue please?

Thanks, Doug.



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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2014, 02:47:18 pm »
Troubleshooting issues like this are very difficult from a LiveCD, as we can't add software.

You can try (with an active internet connection) running:
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sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol
now see if audio works.

But you must remember, even if it does, that fix will NOT survive a reboot.

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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2014, 02:58:09 pm »
Troubleshooting issues like this are very difficult from a LiveCD, as we can't add software.

You can try (with an active internet connection) running:
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sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol
now see if audio works.

But you must remember, even if it does, that fix will NOT survive a reboot.

Can you give us the make/model of your friends laptop ?

Hi, Mark

At least there seems to be progress!!!  :)

Her laptop is a Toshiba Satellite Pro P100.

I'll try what you suggest pity it won't boot from the USB as I understand you can add stuff into that without loading it onto the laptop.

Will post results in  a few moments.

Cheers, Doug.


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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2014, 03:07:06 pm »
Hi, Mark

No luck I'm afraid.

Here's what the output was if it helps :
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol
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Suggested packages:
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  paprefs pulseaudio-module-raop pulseaudio-esound-compat avahi-daemon
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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2014, 03:14:43 pm »
go to

menu > Sound & Video > PulseAudio Volume Control

and mess around in there to see if you can get sound working.

meanwhile, is there more to the model number than P100 ?
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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2014, 03:29:39 pm »
Hi, Mark

Also has the following PSPA4E-002001EN

When I go into menu-sound & video it shows

media player
music player
sound mixer

If i go into sound mixer I get ALSA mixer and four bars two say master two capture with an unlocked padlock below.
I've followed the help and as far as  I can tell put the volume to max. I think it was anyway but is this the thing you
were referring to?

Doug

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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2014, 05:52:31 pm »
No it's not .. I'm guessing PulseAudio can't be installed in a "Live" session then.

I'll see if I can dig anything up about that laptop .. doubt if we'll get Audio working in a "Live" session, but maybe I can find out if audio is fixable (or not) if you install.
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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2014, 06:10:47 pm »
No it's not .. I'm guessing PulseAudio can't be installed in a "Live" session then.

I'll see if I can dig anything up about that laptop .. doubt if we'll get Audio working in a "Live" session, but maybe I can find out if audio is fixable (or not) if you install.

Hi, Mark

I posted another message just after the last one but it's not here for some reason. so here's the gist of it again.

I decided to try Peppermint out on my wife's laptop as she is away today and it worked fine both sound and picture excellent in both iplayer and you tube.  I then tried Linux mint 16, which I also had a copy of,  on her machine and again it worked fine.

Don't pretend to understand this especially as when using XP on my friends laptop it plays iplayer and Youtube perfectly!!

I'm baffled but then that's nothing new.

Cheers,

Doug.

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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2014, 08:49:36 pm »
It does seem sound is an issue with that particular laptop see here http://www.linlap.com/toshiba_satellite_p100 (read under Notes)  but it does suggest there is a workaround and no saying it wont work with pulseaudio which does solve a lot of sound issues in Linux 





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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2014, 09:01:26 pm »
Hi, Graeme

Typical isn't it the very machine I'm trying to use has a sound issue!!

May just have to accept using this machine and Peppermint isn't practical in the end.

Cheers,

Doug.

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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2014, 09:08:22 pm »
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I wouldn't say that just yet this suggests it will work with pulseaudio http://askubuntu.com/questions/246407/no-sound-using-ubuntu-12-10-on-toshiba-satellite-p100

Drivers are being updated all the time the first link I posted goes back to 2007 so it could well have been sorted by then to be honest I'd be surprised if it wasn't but you may have to to throw caution to the wind and install it so you can try it with pulseaudio but I would wait till Mark or someone smarter than me chimed in first if there's a way to fix it Mark will find it :)

Good luck



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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2014, 09:22:54 pm »
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May just have to accept using this machine and Peppermint isn't practical in the end


I wouldn't say that just yet this suggests it will work with pulseaudio http://askubuntu.com/questions/246407/no-sound-using-ubuntu-12-10-on-toshiba-satellite-p100

Drivers are being updated all the time the first link I posted goes back to 2007 so it could well have been sorted by then to be honest I'd be surprised if it wasn't but you may have to to throw caution to the wind and install it so you can try it with pulseaudio but I would wait till Mark or someone smarter than me chimed in first if there's a way to fix it Mark will find it :)

Good luck



Graeme


Hi. Graeme

I hope it can be made to work otherwise my friend is either going to have to buy a new laptop or upgrade hers with W7
and some extra memory at the very least!!

Cheers,

Doug.

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Re: easypeasy and BBC iplayer
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2014, 09:23:20 am »
Yeah it's a shame, sound seems to be the only problem with these laptops and from what I've been reading not only with Linux but a lot of Windows users are reporting similar sound issues , something to do with the bios I believe


Anyway good luck



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