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Is Ubuntu Linux or not ?
Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec):
Is Ubuntu Linux or not .. I've ranted before about how little credit Canonical seem to give other contributors .. calling Ubuntu an "OS" rather than a distribution, not mentioning "Linux" on their homepage (indeed barely mentioning in on their website at all), etc.
AND NOW .. in the 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) Beta1 release notes:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1
They seem to be claiming the KERNEL as their work .. I quote -
--- Quote ---New Features > Ubuntu Kernel
Beta-1 includes the 3.2.0-17.27 Ubuntu kernel which is based on the v3.2.6 upstream stable kernel. This is an update from the 3.2.0-12.21 kernel which shipped in Alpha-2 (based on upstream stable v3.2.2 ). As with Alpha-1 and Alpha-2, the Beta-1 kernel no longer carries a separate amd64 -server and -generic kernel flavor. These have been merged to help reduce the maintenance burden over the life of this LTS release. AUFS also remains disabled in the Beta-1 kernel. Anyone needing AUFS is encouraged to migrate to overlayfs.
--- End quote ---
Indeed there is only ONE mention of "Linux" on that whole page, and that tries to give the impression that Ubuntu is something OTHER than Linux:-
--- Quote ---On PowerPC, when installed alongside linux, the system does not automatically boot into the newly installed system. The workaround is to hold down option key to get a boot menu and proceed from there.
--- End quote ---
Original idea (blatantly stolen) from (and credit given to):-
http://dissociatedpress.net/2012/03/27/ubuntu-were-not-linux/
C:-) :o C:-)
[EDIT]
And before some bright spark tells me "YES, Ubuntu IS a Linux disrtribution" .. I KNOW .. I was being sarcastic ;)
Tramlink:
It seems to me that Ubuntu are aggressively hunting the Windows market and so as not to put Non computer types (most users) have distanced themselves from the name Linux. The Ubuntu 11.04 I have been running for over 6 months has been good (in classic) version.
I only hope that when I have to upgrade I can keep my classic style desktop and my Cairo dock I just love it.
Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec):
I haven't tried the 12.04 beta yet (probably will over the next few days), but I'd be VERY surprised if you can't install the Gnome3 (shell) and therefore gnome-session-fallback (Gnome Classic) .. but I'll let you know more when I know for sure ;)
Unless someone else feels like jumping in .. anyone ? .. BkS ? :)
Question .. why should the name "Linux" put anyone off ???
BkS:
Now that's put me off Ubuntu. :-/ I have the right mind to email Shuttlesworth and letting him know my anger towards this.
About installing Gnome 3, yes you can. 12.04 will ship Gnome 3.4 packages with it, but they won't be installed, and not all of the Gnome 3 packages will be updated to 3.4, so they'll stay at version 3.2.
Haven't tried installing in the beta though.
I remember when I was a Windoze users and looking at Linux as an option, but I was put off because it was different and unless you take the plunge and actually dip your balls into the hot water, then Windoze users will continually be put off coming to Linux even if it's shiny and pretty.
I think what Mark is trying to do, is "mask" the name Linux, and "distro" to make it sound appealing to people who have either never used a computer like the elderly or people thinking of buying a computer, but are a bit naive. Sort picking the girl who's a bit of a slag and has no dignity than the one who looks after herself. Sorry for such a visual description btw!
Either way, this article has now made me consider using Arch. (glitch comes in a smiles...)
SeZo:
--- Quote from: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on March 28, 2012, 04:33:41 pm ---
Beta-1 includes the 3.2.0-17.27 Ubuntu kernel which is based on the v3.2.6 upstream stable kernel. This is an update from the 3.2.0-12.21
--- End quote ---
I guess "upstream" could be loosely translated to Linux, but it means something only to the ones in the know.
Ubuntu was a subject to complaints for some time, that it seems to hide it's heritage,
as “Linux” seems to be a dirty word where image counts.
And it does not fit in with its grand plans either.
Some might say that Ubuntu is aspiring to become like Apple.
http://www.tuxradar.com/content/open-ballot-ubuntu-next-apple
Also how many Mac users do know of the BSD links? I bet not many.
This worked for Apple.
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