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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2012, 03:56:05 pm »
First one failed.

Second installed 42megs

Third- already had.

Still doesn't open from icon or terminal.Maybe after reboot, or reinstallatioi n... or I need that webtoolkit- how do I get that?

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2012, 04:00:30 pm »
have you tried BOTH libstdc++.so.6 files since installing those ?

what is returned in the terminal of you run:
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cd ~/iCall
then
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./iCall.sh
with both versions of libstdc++.so.6
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2012, 01:01:41 am »
mako4@mak4-laptop:~/iCall$  ./iCall.sh

w 64bit Returns:  cd: 2: can't cd to $1
/home/mako4/iCall/bin/iCall: error while loading shared libraries: libQtOpenGL.so .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
w 32bit returns:  the same

 You don't install these, right, just extract and copy them into Icall/lib folder. Why would this work without webtoolkit4? Do I install libQTOpenGL.so .4? Have a feeling should un + reinstall the Icall after chmod-ing it.

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2012, 01:06:31 am »
libQtOpenGL.so .4 is part of the libqt4-opengl package, so try installing that:
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sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl

I must have already had that installed.

Once that's installed, follow the instructions above again to start it from the command line, in case something else is missing .. at least we'll get a clue that way.



And in answer to your question .. NO, you only put things in there if they cannot be installed system wide.
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2012, 01:22:10 am »
I was right, though I didn't send that between netbook + laptop- Icall folder isn't the right place for that (w 32bit)
cd: 2: can't cd to $1
/home/mako4/iCall/bin/iCall: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /home/mako4/iCall/bin/iCall)

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2012, 01:42:25 am »
Have you tried both the 32 and 64bit versions of libstdc++.so.6 I sent you in ~/iCall/libs ?

then starting with:
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cd ~/iCall
then
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./iCall.sh

and do they both return the same thing ?
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2012, 01:46:56 am »
Copying it into the usr/lib folder rendered 2 identical files, except one is called libstdc++.so.6.0.13 + the other just so.6 (link to shared library). Can't seem to delete it it to paste in 32 bit version. Getting same message glibcxx not found. Like I said, which Ubuntu did you get it from, maybe only 11.10 will work.

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2012, 01:53:15 am »
If you're going to run off ignoring what I'm telling you .. I'll stop responding .. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT put those files I sent you in /usr/lib

I already told you that could cause you other issues .. I'm not going to be responsible for you messing up your system.

I don't need to be trying to help, whilst you go off creating more problems that you'll then want me to help with.

Would you go replacing/adding/removing things in C:/Windows/System32 if you didn't know what they were ?
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2012, 02:02:39 am »
Too late. Sorry. Just trying to be proactive- thing says can't file in this place, I put it in this place. Really, can mess up system? How to reverse?

Yes I did try both versions in the Icall/lib folder- gave same response.

I gotta go to bed

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2012, 11:50:05 am »
As you say, there are 2 files in /usr/lib .. one is a shortcut which will always have the name libstdc++.so.6, and the other is the ACTUAL library.

Now considering I'd taken the ACTUAL Library and renamed it to libstdc++.so.6 for you to put in the ~/iCall/libs directory .. placing it in /usr/lib means you no longer have a shortcut, and you now have the wrong version of libstdc++.so.6, which *may* cause issues with other applications and/or the OS itsel .. you my not have issues, but I never meant it to go in /usr/lib

If libstdc++6 is now corrupted, you'll have a right game re-installing it, because apt will be broken.

But let's try:
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sudo apt-get install --reinstall libstdc++6

If that doesn't work .. send the output from:
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locate libstdc++.so.6

And stop trying to get ahead of things .. "proactive" is NOT a good idea when someone else is giving you support, it just means they may end up having to fix other issues you've caused, but they have no documentation for (ie. changes you made but didn't add to the topic).

If you think of something your mentor may have missed, or want to try something .. ask if it's safe before doing it, and be SURE to add it to the topic .. pre-empting what you "think" they may say next, is not necessarily a good idea.

If on the other hand you think you know what you're doing .. by all means, try it yourself .. but then you own the consequences ;)
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2012, 01:18:06 pm »
I did it right away before any warning- it seemed obvious. That's the problem with Ubuntu- nothing is logical, you can never assume you know anything, when you know some. Don't understand- the ACTUAL LIBRARY IS SOMETHING ELSE AND NEEDS TO BE RENAMED (ignore caps) or it is supposed to be only a shortcut there.

These are the installed files from synaptic:
libstdc++6                 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1   (latest vers same)    1298kB    GNU stand.G++ libraryV3
libstdc++6-4.4-dev    4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1   (latest vers same)     11.3Mb        " "       (development files)

why wouldn't the new version be fine or better? You mean other programs would be looking for older version? Which programs use this? Didn't reinstall, awaiting ur assessmnt- may be hitting point of diminishing returns. There any way to tell the 32 + 64 file apart? This is output of locate: (I only put it-64b in lib + Icall)

/home/mako4/Downloads-Ubun/libstdc++6/32bit/libstdc++.so.6
/home/mako4/Downloads-Ubun/libstdc++6/64bit/libstdc++.so.6
/home/mako4/iCall/libstdc++.so.6
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.13
/usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6
/usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6.0.13


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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2012, 01:37:07 pm »
WindowsIn reality things make MUCH more sense in Linux .. the reason for the shortcut is so programs just need to look for libstdc++.so.6, and will be pointed at whichever version is installed on your system.

You *may* be right (and probably are), that having a later version would do no harm, but it/they would have to be the right version(s) for your architecture, it/they would have to be in the right place(s) and any symlink(s) "shortcut(s)" would have to be updated.

I didn't do it that way, because I wasn't 100% SURE what the outcome would be (I'm not sat at a 64bit 10.04 PC), it would have taken a lot more work, and there was more scope for making a "system screwing" mistake .. BUT MOST OF ALL, it wasn't necessary, so why go messing with system files.

You'll find I don't (unless necessary) give responses that risk the system as a whole just to get ONE application working unless there is no other option .. I will ALWAYS explore other options first .. I *KNOW* doing it my way didn't risk breaking anything else, and it DOES work (at least in 32bit Ubuntu).

Try reinstalling libstdc++6 as I said:
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sudo apt-get install --reinstall libstdc++6
If it reinstalls, fine, nothing is broken .. if it doesn't at least we'll know it's broken, and we'll fix that first.

Then we'll take it from there.



Sorry, but I can't resist ;) .. are you seriously suggesting Windows is MORE logical than Linux ?

So the Windows registry makes sense to you does it ?

Windows only *seems* more logical to you because you are *used* to it.
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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2012, 04:08:43 pm »
It reinstalled fine. Yeah, windows is more logical- can't believe there are all these Ubuntu programs without a simple help or command file included- you gotta go on the web to get any support or go through clunky manuals. And if Windows says can't find this file at this folder, you put it in there. There may be subtle differences w the 64 bit, I was uncertain about installing it cause you never know what programs will work or not work on it.

Preparing to replace libstdc++6 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1 (using .../libstdc++6_4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb) ...

So when they do updates, rather than change all the pointer files through the whole thing, they just change the file, leaving it the same name- that's efficient but confusing as hell when trying to determine what's what. I just don't understand how Icall can access it in it's own folder if it's looking for it elsewhere (that newest subfile).

How do I escape from  a manual in terminal? Keystroke?

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2012, 11:16:02 pm »
Of course, WIndows is junk in security, monoculture taken to an extreme, 5 layers of bad evolution mated in a monstrous oversized mess, and the Registry is some massive bizarre termite mound that
Windopws engineers don't understand. Ubuntu is now useful for just about anything, and I used it exclusively for 10  months, while WIndows was sick.

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Re: Screen Hysteria after Suspend
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2012, 09:18:40 pm »
Well I tried most combinations of the vga post, bios, and the third one and it work OK for a little while, then flash eratically again. One thing may be source- it seems my Evolution (mail) runs as a duplicate phantom, because as computer is closing (shut down), the Evolution will display on screen for a few seconds, even if it is not open. The Skype also starts on start-up, though it is not set to do that in Ubuntu or Skype. Can some unclosed program, or background duplicate cause this screen hysteria???????????? Any diagnostics can run t check it out?

Know some manager, synch, modem Ubuntu program for an old Nokia 7260 phone??

 


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