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Chromebook Vs Peppermint on an SSD boot times

Started by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec), October 12, 2014, 01:39:09 AM

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Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

How fast exactly does a chromebook boot ?

I've found the video below that say 8 seconds .. but is it me, or was that more like a resume from suspend as he never hits a power button ?
(and the 8 seconds appears to be to the login screen)

reason I ask...

I just put a 250GB Samsung 840 EVO solid state drive in a customers Dell n5110 (quad core i7-2670QM, 6GB RAM, SATA3 [6Gb]),then bunged Peppermint 5 on it .. boot time from GRUB menu to *fully* loaded desktop (auto-login) including active wireless .. 7 seconds
(11 seconds from power button to desktop)

OK, that's somewhat higher spec than a chromebook, but still.....

If I get the chance, I'll video the Dell .. for now you'll just have to take my word.

Chromebook boot in 8 seconds - Samsung Serie 5
(youtube title)

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You may want to look at this video (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/newer-chromebooks-have-5-second-boot-up-time/) of a Chromebook which boots up in a mere 5 seconds or so after pressing the "Power" button

Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

5 seconds to the LOGIN screen.

About the same (this actually takes 6 secs from GRUB to the login screen) as this laptop then .. but this is without hardware optimisation, and I *may* be able to shave a bit off that by ditching unused services, etc.

OK, this laptop sits at the POST screen for a while .. but if there was a way to disable that.......

I'd also like to know more about "core boot" .. is it still 5 secs if you remove/replace the battery ? .. or is "core boot" where the battery actually keeps the "core" of the OS booted (so really it's more akin to suspend) ? .. is it a "true" COLD boot ?

Theoretically you'd think Chromebooks/ChromeOS should be faster than Peppermint/Generic PC .. not loading a full desktop environment, and being optimised for the hardware .. but my question is - is it really ?

It'd be interesting (if only it was mine) to put 14.04 server and Xserver on this thing, and have it only fire up goole-chrome .. (ignoring POST) I'm betting this would be faster than that Chromebook ;)

BTW, this is not a "look how quick Peppermint is" posting (there are faster booting distros than Peppermint) .. more a question of "is the Chromebook/ChromeOS combination really as fast/light as they say".
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I think you are misunderstanding what coreboot is (does)
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot):
Coreboot stages

   1) Bootblock stage: prepare to obtain Flash access and look up the ROM stage to use
   2) ROM stage: memory and early chipset init (a bit like PEI in EFI)
   3) RAM stage: device enumeration and resource assignment, ACPI table creation, SMM handler (a bit like DXE stage in EFI)
   4) Payload. (This is the OS, Linux or otherwise)

Also the Chromebook might be fast but not high end (unlike the laptop you are comparing it to), heck that SSD probably cost more than the whole Chromebook.

Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)

I wasn't so much misunderstanding coreboot, as not understanding AT ALL :)
(actually your wikipedia link bought it flooding back .. LinuxBIOS .. been a while since I read anything about that, nice to know it lives :) )

At £97 I'd kind of expect it to cost HALF as much as a 16GB chromebook .. it's roughly 16 times the capacity.

I know I'm talking apples and oranges here, I was just amazed to see a FULL/PROPER Linux boot quicker than a Chromebook .. so stop pissing on my parade, you cad you ;)
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