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Non-Tech Zone => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mad Penguin on March 29, 2022, 12:56:38 AM

Poll
Question: What do you think of the new version of the Forum software?
Option 1: Welcome to 2022! votes: 2
Option 2: Generally looks Ok votes: 3
Option 3: Could take it or leave it votes: 1
Option 4: Some things are broken votes: 0
Option 5: Not as easy to read or use votes: 1
Option 6: 2010 called and they want their Beta back ... votes: 0
Title: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 29, 2022, 12:56:38 AM
Ok, so I'm partly testing polls here to see how they look on the new version. Note, if you look in your profile you can change your Theme. I've uploaded 4 for now, let me know if there's anything on the SMF mods page you like the look of.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Brian000 on March 29, 2022, 06:55:28 PM
i'll side on the positive, it's different and changes how I used to find posts and read replies. time will truly decide if it's easier or harder; but unless we're writing our own forum we'll always be a slave to somebody else's view of "better". i notice we've lost some personalisation - messages etc, but perhaps those have just moved and I've not looked ;).

the upgrade has worked well, and feels smoother/slicker on my phone, being my main device for this.

I'm more thankful to the forum in general, and the fact it exists outside of the social media giants who have swallowed so many similar groups, and to its community of users.

I'll assume that any annoyances can be mitigated, or dwindle with time as I forget the old interface.

it's a thumbs up from I!


Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 29, 2022, 07:22:53 PM
Personal messages are on the Envelope, left hand column ..  :)
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Gaz511 on March 30, 2022, 01:01:09 PM
All looks OK to me. It is more difficult to find find the latest posts when just browsing ( star icon not available ) but easy when you have logged in.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 30, 2022, 03:45:27 PM
Ok, so we used to have some "Portal" software which provided the summary page(s), but unfortunately this wasn't compatible with the new version of SMF. It it's deemed useful I could add one of the alternative Portals that is compatible with SMF 2.1, although someone would need to spend a little time configuring it.

The "best" one I can see looks to be;
Tiny Portal (https://www.tinyportal.net/docs/)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 30, 2022, 04:05:04 PM
Just added a "like" button to each post, also on user profile pages there is a "posts I liked" link which will take you back to a list of "liked" posts .. seems useful for bookmarking stuff  :)
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Brian000 on March 30, 2022, 04:35:57 PM
This "quick reply" feels to be a handy addition, but where is the "like" I can't see anything obvious?
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 31, 2022, 12:13:42 AM
Ok, I've attached some screen-grabs of what I see for Star and Like .. note Star won't appear on Polls (this thread is off a Poll) but most normal articles it should show. Like seems to appear everywhere ...
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 31, 2022, 01:09:00 AM
Ok so there was a permissions issue with some of the new mods .. have now tweaked. The starts plugin, only senior members and mods can set the rating, but everyone will be able to see them if they're set. 
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Brian000 on March 31, 2022, 07:45:21 AM
G,

Just to confirm that I can "Like" and see&set the Star rating - but once set, I'm unable to change said rating.

Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 31, 2022, 12:36:45 PM
Ok, after a little research I've remove the star rating mod, it does look like you can't change the rating (by design) when set which (let's face it) is either really lazy or .. forum protocol prevents me from commenting further (!) The "like" sort of achieves the same thing and you can get at your likes posts with;
https://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=mylikedcontent;u=2
(Profile -> Profile Info -> Posts I liked)
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Brian000 on March 31, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
I'm not sure of the use case, but I see we can change the icon that appears beside our name post date/time, at the top of each of our posts....

I quite like it!

Have noticed that quick edit doesn't seem to work, while 'more->Modify' does.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on March 31, 2022, 02:59:10 PM
For anyone who wants to keep track of posts / recent posts, the forum does support an RSS feed (XML) which you can get at with the following URL;
https://linuxforums.org.uk/?action=.xml&limit=100

This is for everything, most recent 100 .. if you access via a board, you can get individual boards, and of course change the number of items. I've attached a screenshot of the forum RSS when views through a reader, in this case "Feeder" which is an extension for Google chrome.

Also (!) "Tapatalk" is now working properly again if you want to use on a mobile ...
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 11, 2022, 09:48:33 PM
Upgrade?

It's AWFUL.

Sorry. It wasn't broken and didn't need fixing.

Please, Mad Penguin, tell me how to change to another theme. The default hurts my eyes. Just as everyone else is offering dark mode we suddenly get glaring white!
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on April 12, 2022, 10:25:19 AM
Mmm, actually it was broken, quite badly in fact. As you will notice the site had endured in it's previous form for over 12 years so you would have noted a distinct resistance to unnecessary change (!)

I get that it's different to the previous look, you can change it by going into "Profile" (3rd down on the left) , hover over "forum profile" and select "Look and layout".  Then select the "CHANGE" button on the right next to "Current theme". This should list the available themes with some screenshots .. click "USE THIS THEME" for the one you want.

There are ways to "enhance" the display and provide more indexing etc using "portal" add-ons, for example; https://custom.simplemachines.org/index.php?mod=97 .. but this needs people to (a) want it and (b) contribute. Currently my time extends to keeping the thing running, other than that I'm pretty busy with other stuff. 

Unfortunately in this day and age re; Internet security, there are limits to "not" upgrading.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 12, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
Ah, I hadn't thought about the security aspect...

Also I suppose it was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction on my part, for which, apologies. I've now switched to a different theme which I find easier on the eye, and I suppose the interface does look more 2022 than the old one, for obvious reasons. I'd still like a dark mode or at least a darker theme, but having calmed down I'm giving it a thumbs up. Sorry for any offence I may have caused.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on April 13, 2022, 12:06:59 AM
Ok, so I've just added two more themes, "SociWT" and "Blue Evolution", the latter is dark mode, the former has two variants, one light, one dark. Both seem to work Ok and look very different to the current default. You might like to give them a try to see if they suit any better  ..  :)
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 13, 2022, 12:24:48 AM
Thanks Mad Penguin,

Blue Evolution it is!

M
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on April 13, 2022, 12:29:30 AM
Yeah, I tried SociWT for a bit, little too dark for my taste although a bit smoother than Evolution. You can lookup 2.1 compatible themes on the SMF site here; https://custom.simplemachines.org/index.php?action=themes .. if you see anything else you want to try, let me know.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 13, 2022, 12:40:47 AM
I must have missed something. SociWT didn't work for me. It stayed resolutely light. I'll have another look but probably not tonight. Work tomorrow..

Thanks again. Blue Evolution is fine. SociWT would have to be very good to better it.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on April 13, 2022, 10:57:56 AM
Mmm, when you select SociWT there is a dropdown listing "Style1" or "Style2" .. 1 is dark (default) 2 is light ... 
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 13, 2022, 09:04:32 PM
I tried that yesterday and again just now, but both themes are light for some reason.
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: Mad Penguin on April 14, 2022, 12:44:12 AM
Mm, no idea .. that screenshot is from me selecting it .. maybe your machine is a secret Jedi with an aversion to the dark side?   ;)
Title: Re: How do we feel about the Forum upgrade?
Post by: mikep on April 14, 2022, 12:54:03 AM
Just my luck!

But Blue Evolution will do very nicely.

Thanks for your help.