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Title: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 13, 2013, 08:34:19 pm
Shane and Kendall have decided to release Peppermint 4 a day early .. so if you want it, it's available now :)
http://peppermintos.com/ (http://peppermintos.com/)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 13, 2013, 10:47:38 pm
I'm posting this from my shiny new Peppermint 4 install :) Initial thoughts: It's GREAT!! I've tweaked a few things (Including installing the pf-kernel) and things seem to be going swimmingly :)

I have one question though...How can I remove notifications altogether? Is it apt-get purge notifiaction-deamon?

EDIT: Actually I have a couple more questions:

1. How can I replace LXTerminal with Terminology? I already installed it, added it to update-alternatives, and selected it in update-alternatives, but I want to make the Terminal icon in the menu point to terminology (I'm assuming there's a .desktop file somewhere?)

2. I used to be able to have a window open, and then use the middle mouse button to scroll in Chromium behind the window without it disappearing. Now whenever I scroll, Chromium is raised. I've looked at the focus settings in Window Manager Tweaks, but none of those settings changed that behavior. Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 14, 2013, 12:59:14 am
Glad you like it :)

I'll have to look into 2 of your points and get back to you ..

The one  I can help with ATM .. the menu item "Terminal" is controlled by the /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop file .. so open it for editing:
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sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop

And edit these 2 lines:-

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TryExec=lxterminal
Exec=lxterminal

Probably to

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TryExec=terminology
Exec=terminology

SAVE the file .. the changes should be immediate .. so try the menu item.

[EDIT]

I'll try to get back to you soon on the other points .. but if I haven't posted anything in a day or two, give the topic a bump .. memory isn't what it once was (IIRC) ;)

[EDIT 2]

You could try disabling the dbus/notify-osd popups by renaming /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service:
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sudo mv -v /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled

re-enable with:
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sudo mv -v /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service

then log off/on (or reboot).

That won't totally get rid of notifications .. but it should allow you to CHOOSE which notifications are displayed and which aren't (you'll see what I mean .. the notifications should now have a button to select "don't display this again").



You'll get the same effect by removing notify-osd .. just make sure it doesn't take anything else with it ;)

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Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 14, 2013, 02:17:10 am
Well I removed notify-osd, so let's see what happens with that :)

I ended up editing terminology.desktop to make it show up in the Accessories section. Then I had to change the default font and size of the window. However how do I make those changes permanent? I can run
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terminology -f=fontname/10 -g=80x24
in a terminal to make it the right size and such, but how do I always run with those paramaters? Also how can I make the font bold? Right now it looks weird cause it's really skinny.

I think that's all the changes I'm looking to make right now...but I'm sure I'll be asking again when I have more issues lol!

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 14, 2013, 02:34:05 am
I'll have a looksee at the terminology font thing tomorrow .. too much pear cider tonight :)

I'm pretty sure I sorted that when Mad Penguin first brought up terminology .. so again, if I aint posted soon, give this a bump .. my memory sucks these days, and a ton of pear cider aint gonna help either ;)

BTW, for now you could try editing terminology.desktop and making the "Exec" line read

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Exec="terminology -f=fontname/10 -g=80x24"
(try with or without the quotation marks)

[EDIT]

I'm marking this topic "unread" to help my hung over self tomorrow ;)

I do like that feature in SMF .. beats phpBB on that front.

[EDIT 2]

Can you let me know if removing notiyf-osd worked as you expected, so I can pass that on to others if it ever comes up .. thanks.

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Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 14, 2013, 05:10:03 am
OK, it looks like removing notify-osd works fine. I haven't seen any notifications so far :)

Also, I opened a terminology window, and just right clicked, then hit settings and was able to change everything there. The changes made are automatically permanent (but with the option to make them temporary). Yay!! :D

So now all that's left is the focus thing :) ...Next up is getting Skype working right with audio and such since I have dual-microphones on my Lenovo S10-3. I'll get it sorted eventually though :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 14, 2013, 11:59:03 am
OK, your focus issue .. if I'm understanding you correctly, try this

menu>Preferences>Window Manager Tweaks>Accessability (tab)

Now remove the tick from:- "Raise window when any mouse button is pressed"

Did that achieve what you wanted ?
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 14, 2013, 01:03:55 pm
Yepp! That did it! Thanks!!
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 14, 2013, 02:04:41 pm
Great .. and you're welcome :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Toonman on June 15, 2013, 09:21:09 am
OK. It has been released. So what are the differences over 3?

I am keen to know as 3 is working just fine at the moment.

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too much pear cider tonight :)


You are fitting into the West Country image Mark.  :)
You didn't have the Wurzels greatest hits on as well did you?   ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 15, 2013, 01:45:41 pm
Hahaha ..

Ok, differences ..

Xfwm4 window manager, so has Win7 style windows snapping, transparency, drop shadows, rounded window corners, built  in compositor, etc.
(making it much more configurable, customisable, and better looking .. but not any heavier that I can tell)

New icon theme

New version of PCManFM, ICE, and a few other doodads

More cutting edge software available because ti's based on Ubuntu/Lubuntu 13.04 .. eg. LibreOffice 4 is in the default repos.

Got rid of GWOffice (which was broken in PM3) and replaced with Google drive

Besides the Xfwm4 window manager and the fact it's on the 13.04 code base there are no MAJOR differences .. it just looks/behaves a whole lot slicker .. so no need to rush into an upgrade .. your call :)

It's mainly about lots of little tweaks and the newer code base .. but then it was never going to have any major changes (besides the Window manager) .. how do you improve on perfection ;)

It's now IMHO the most "polished" and "professional" looking LXDE distro available.. but you'll have to decide that for yourself .. as I said, nothing major, just improvements .. if you liked PM3, you'll like PM4 but just that bit more.

Have a looksee in a LiveCD/LiveUSB and decide for yourself.

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Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 15, 2013, 08:52:39 pm
Actually, I spoke too soon. Removing notify-osd hasn't disabled all the notifications :/

Do you know if there's any other notification application/daemon that might be running?
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 15, 2013, 09:19:24 pm
Is there not a button on the remaining notifications to select "don't show this again" ?
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 15, 2013, 09:29:36 pm
There was on one, but I'm still getting battery notifications and wireless notifications, and neither of those have that option.
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 15, 2013, 09:51:07 pm
I'll see what I can dig up :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 15, 2013, 10:07:52 pm
What happens if you remove xfce4-notifyd ?:
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sudo apt-get remove xfce4-notifyd
?

If it threatens to remove anything else .. another way to disable it (rather than uninstalling it) is by running:
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sudo mv -v /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service.disabled

re-enable with:
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sudo mv -v /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service.disabled /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service

You'll probably need to reboot for the changes to take effect.

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Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Toonman on June 16, 2013, 08:36:24 am
Cheers Mark.
I will give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 16, 2013, 10:51:51 am
Let me know how it goes :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Toonman on June 17, 2013, 11:33:59 am
Trying out now on live usb.  Without a doubt a fair bit quicker and smoother than 3. Just needs a few additions and some cloud based program removal for my own taste.  I cant seem to create an account or password for the usb session though. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 17, 2013, 01:36:59 pm
Has it ever been possible to create accounts on a "Live" USB ?

How did you create the LiveUSB, and is it persistent ?
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: A Future Pilot on June 17, 2013, 01:38:06 pm
Hey Mark, you posted a link to getting Skype working somewhere, and now I can't find it for the life of me. Could you point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on June 17, 2013, 01:47:55 pm
If you already have it installed, and it's the mic levels you're having problems with:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10313.msg76522#msg76522 (http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10313.msg76522#msg76522)
(is that the one you mean ?)

if you HAVEN'T got it installed, you'll need to activate the "Partner" and "Independent" repos in Synaptic .. THEN install skype.



Once you have PulseAsudio installed, you can go to:-

menu>Sound & Video>PulseAudio Volume Control>Input Devices
(tab)

and mess with the mic levels in there (mine are left=79 right=17)

but you MUST have told Skype NOT to automatically adjust the mic.
(explained in the link above)

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Title: Re: Peppermint 4 released a day early .. Go get it now.
Post by: Toonman on June 17, 2013, 02:07:13 pm
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Has it ever been possible to create accounts on a "Live" USB ?

How did you create the LiveUSB, and is it persistent ?

I did ages ago. can't remember the distro.

3gb persistance.

It's not a massive issue.  it's just that I have started to lose usb sticks on a regular basis now!  So I don't want anything visible, documents etc.
Just a simple password would suffice.
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