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Title: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 10, 2013, 05:11:58 pm
I've got a translating project due tomorrow and Open Office is going nuts- not reading things, pages disappearing, crashing on saves. How big is Libre Office- just want to install Writer by itself - I only have 450 Mb left. Maybe I got a macro- was using docx which OO doesn't fully support.

Please tell me how to remove OO, and install LIbre Office, really only WRITER at first.

The CLAM was damaged- I really need to scan these doc files lest I send people viruses. What are instructions for reinstalling or deleting and installing it.

Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on July 10, 2013, 05:18:01 pm
Which distro/version/architecture ?

You could try ..

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sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org*
then
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sudo apt-get install libreoffice-writer

Obviously that's only going to work if libreoffice is in your repos
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 10, 2013, 08:52:27 pm
Ubuntu 10.4.1  with all updates
Turion 64 AMD 1.8Gh, 1 gb 400Mh ramm

Open Office 3.2.0
OO 320 m12  Build 9483

Title: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 10, 2013, 09:01:30 pm
How much bigger is it than Open Office??  What's a reinstall OO command.  Why do you use   the  .org* ending? Since when does a program be named as a website?

Can I just install the Libre Writer/processor without the other stuff?? 

Just got that new RAM but it's in America for 2 weeks.

Wish I got the netbook kicking- didn't take off of the motherboard this time and was bending the cable a bit, but using some superglue to fasten the ferrite may have been fatal to connections. Then ther was the drop of bleach on the  motherboard... don't ask.

Thanks.

Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on July 10, 2013, 10:13:19 pm
OK, I doubt if Libreoffice is in the 10.04 repos.

OpenOffice has always been called OOo = OpenOffice.org

Command to reinstall is *probably*:
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sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice

Size .. I doubt if there's much in it one way or the other as LibreOffice was a fork of OpenOffice anyway.

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Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 11, 2013, 02:02:36 am
what repo is it in + how do I add it (maybe I know that in Synaptic);   But they don't just add all compatible software to older repos?  Maybe the Peppermint repo- that has got to be a light version (actually it sucked 400-500 mb of RAM, i think).

Second time I've heard this fork business, a friend w for Google in NYC says Oracle owns OOoooo. How can they buy open source program?

DOes *probably* mean it sometimes doesn't work and will just destroy the installation you have? Better to UN , reboot, + then RE Install, eh?

Ah I see- you are saying just install Writer- that would have support for any Tables, right?

Any ideas how to remove Clam- that's got so many other aux programs I installed- it ain't working- hurt it by forcing close in process manager 60 times,I guess.
sudo apt-get remove --purge clam (clamav)?  you need the  *    with removing OOo because it doesn't say that to reinstall
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on July 11, 2013, 11:19:19 am
This PPA
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid

to install libreoffice-writer:
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
then
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sudo apt-get update
then
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sudo apt-get install libreoffice-writer

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DOes *probably* mean it sometimes doesn't work and will just destroy the installation you have?

No, it means I''m not 100% sure the name of the package is "openoffice" in 10.04 .. if it's not, nothing will get installed.

for clamav, try:
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sudo apt-get remove --purge clamav



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Second time I've heard this fork business, a friend w for Google in NYC says Oracle owns OOoooo. How can they buy open source program?

OpenOffice was originally owned by Sun Microsystems, who open sourced the code .. Oracle bought Sun, so now own OpenOffice .. now whilst Oracle can't exactly "close" the original source again, they have a reputation for -

a) being open source hostile
b) being control freaks
c) dropping development of acquired open source projects

and theoretically, they *could* take the project off in a new "closed" direction .. though they're more likely to just drop it altogether.

Anyway .. a good chunk of the developers that worked on the OpenOffice project didn't get on with the new owners, or just didn't trust them, so took the open source code for OpenOffice and created LibreOffice from it.

The first release of LibreOffice was basically just the same code as OpenOffice but with a different name, but no longer controlled by Oracle, the code in the two branches has since diverged more and more .. that's the definition of a "fork", where the original project forks into two distinct separate projects.

And that's the beauty of open source in a nutshell .. don't like the direction a projects leaders are taking it .. grab the freely available code, and fork it into your own project with YOUR direction.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 13, 2013, 01:28:46 pm
Is there a way to remove or reinstall only the OOo WRITER, or is it all too integrated. Would then installing only the Libre Office writer be OK.

You think Libre is better or only more free- development has continued? Did Oracle do anything esp. bad to OOo, bring it closer to MS programs or something.

Removed Clam programs w Synaptic, and reinstalled it, but still want to shut off background scanning.


Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on July 13, 2013, 01:48:45 pm
LibreOffice is definitely recieving a greater development effort than OOo

Remove just OOo writer:
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sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-writer
reinstall:
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sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer

I wouldn't like to try mixing LO and OOo .. as they may both use some of the same config files etc.

but up to you if you want to give it a go.

It's not that Oracle are "close to Microsoft" .. it's more that they behave in the same way .. they are now pariahs of the FOSS world too.

Sun had a lot of open source projects that Oracle acquired when bought Sun .. they then proceeded to either drop them, or force their will onto the devs, or sue anyone that that they thought were using the code .. such as trying to sue Google over Android.

Oracle are as much just a money making machine with no scruples as M$, they have no interest in the OSS projects they own, or the FOSS community in general .. if it can't be made to make money, they drop it.

even OpenOffice has been handed to Apache  .. but too late .. everyone (including the devs) has already moved to LO.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on July 14, 2013, 02:57:45 am
Something that always confused me was maybe half the time, for no apparent reason my OOo document(s) would have to be "recovered" before I could  use them. It always worked but I found it disquieting when there was no problem in saving  or closing them.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 14, 2013, 07:33:08 pm
I got really bizarre behavior from Libre Office- when I clicked on a doc file, it would also open SeaMoney (web editor-browser), though not if I opened program directly + opened file inside it. Also the spell check didn't work at all- did nothing. ANyway I seem to have trashed it removing Libre Office packages w Computer Janitor- now it doesn't open, get this:   "FATAL ERROR. The application cannot be started. Loading component library failed."  I reinstalled the Libre ppa but when tried to reinstall it, got this below:   (Did I make mistake?).

[email protected]:/home/mako4# apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-writer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reinstallation of libreoffice-writer is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libreoffice-gtk
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.

Also I tried to remove evolution- figured it would warn me if there was anything terrible- just 4-5 evolution programs along with main, but got a screen freeze and had to do hard shutoff. Only simple evolution was still marked for removal + undid it (size didn't change). Have been trying to make space to upgrade to 10.10 thinking that might fix some of my junk. Pep3 + 4 don't read from my (or 2 other) lappys, but they do from a more modern desktop. Maybe marginal CD- RIData.

What do you suggest, Master Jedi Mark? Need the writer- I'm doing translations every day.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 14, 2013, 07:34:51 pm
This was exact message:
The application cannot be started.
loading component library failed: file:///usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/ucpgvfs1.uno.so
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 14, 2013, 07:44:16 pm
The LibreOffice PPA (above) no longer contains a version for Ubuntu 10.04

But this one does:
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0?field.series_filter=lucid

Open a terminal and run:
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sudo apt-get autoremove
then
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sudo apt-get clean
then
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0
then
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sudo apt-get update
then
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sudo apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-writer

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Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 02:11:08 am
Didn't work- restarted and still get that file missing warning after starts to load.

I tried purge-removing the writer only, then installing it, but still get that warning. Guess next step is to reinstall all libre office- it's the same command?

So different versions of Ubuntu are so different that each needs it's own version of software- that seems like alot of work. It did look like that new repository had an older version, but since was getting % and other trash characters, not sure.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 10:38:30 am
It's the fact that older versions of Ubuntu will have older libraries .. yet the newer software may depend on the newer versions of those libraries.

Now considering Ubuntu 10.04 (desktop) is nearly end of life, they're unlikely to update those libraries .. so LibreOffice have no choice but not to support 10.04 in newer versions.

Kinda like trying to install Software for Vista in Windows 98 .. the supporting framework just isn't there.



You could try purging the LibreOffice PPA's you have added .. then go back to the original version of LibreOffice from the 10.04 repositories.

or a better idea would be to move to 12.04, or Mint, or Peppermint, or ............
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 01:20:19 pm
Well I gotta get this working- have any idea where repositories for that library would be- how do you force it to install them?  I thought they support LTR for 5 years. Open Office should still work OK though, right? Actually had a bunch of frightening freeze-crashes right after I read of some new Linux virus (Hand of smtg, though it was just financial theft)- the second I get a Pep3 disc working, I'm wiping this partition- already backed up everything. This is 7 years old- I don't think it can handle the requirements of 12.4 (which I put on a landlords lappy). I'm also constrained by partition's tiny size (7.5gb)
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 01:26:51 pm
What's with that damn Computer Janitor? (In admin-standard prog?).  I thought packages means installation packages, which can be removed. What programs RUN from packages or have libraries on them. It gave me about 5 Libre packages to remove, then after I did it 10 more appeared, which looked strange (now that you've destroyed it, might as well remove everything). I'd already removed them with Tweak, so I shoulda been more cautious.

OK if I remove Libre completely, that other repository must have the associated libraries, mustn't it????????????
What good is the main program without the libraries that it needs?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 01:31:19 pm
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I thought they support LTR for 5 years

Erm, they support LTS's NOW for 5 years .. but they didn't when 10.04 came out .. that got 3 years

See here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
Support for the desktop edition of 10.04 finished in May this year.

Apparently one of the versions of LibreOffice 4 had issues with that library .. known bug .. You must have that version, and there's AFAIK no way to get a later version in 10.04
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 02:30:11 pm
There's a known issue that renders the entire Office suite unusable and nobody in this massive community just posts that library somewhere? Well any other different libre repositories that you know? The libre office was reading docx etc, but not having the spellcheck was a huge pain
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 02:48:30 pm
How about this one 4.0.4
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86_64&version=4.0.4&lang=en-US (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86_64&version=4.0.4&lang=en-US)
or the next lower one: 3.6.7
Since I had 4 something, 3.6.7 must be old enough to work
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 03:10:59 pm
Jeez, I gotta get something working or run to borrow another lappy now. Got translations to do. Don't want to remove Libre if there's a simple fix possible. A little afraid it will leave remnants behind that may screw up subsequent installations.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 03:23:05 pm

>You could try purging the LibreOffice PPA's you have added .. then go back to the original version of LibreOffice from the 10.04 repositories.

How?? Is that Libre link i sent good for that- they don't say anything about working on different versions.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 03:26:51 pm
Which link ?

What's the output from:
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for APT in `find /etc/apt/ -name *.list`; do grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+" $APT | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f4` PPA=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5` ; echo ppa:$USER/$PPA ; done ; done
(that will list active PPA's on your system)
and
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dpkg -l | grep libre
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 03:43:07 pm
Well tried to purge libreoffice- said I don't have it installed. Removed libre-writer. Tried installing openoffice.org-writer, got this:
Oh, gotta add that PPA- that gets purged too?

[email protected]:/home/mako4# apt-get install openoffice.org-writer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  openoffice.org-writer: Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.4) but it is not going to be installed
                         Depends: openoffice.org-base-core (= 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.4) but it is not going to be installed
                         Recommends: openoffice.org-emailmerge but it is not going to be installed
                         Recommends: openoffice.org-math but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Output from first command:
cho ppa:$USER/$PPA ; done ; done
ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
ppa:tualatrix/ppa
ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0
ppa:libreoffice/ppa
ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque

OUTPUT GREP:

ii  libdjvulibre-text                     3.5.22-1ubuntu4.1                               Linguistic support files for libdjvulibre
ii  libdjvulibre21                        3.5.22-1ubuntu4.1                               Runtime support for the DjVu image format
ii  libreadline5                          5.2-7build1                                     GNU readline and history libraries, run-time libraries
ii  libreadline6                          6.1-1                                           GNU readline and history libraries, run-time libraries
ii  libreoffice-base                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- database
ii  libreoffice-base-core                 1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- shared library
ii  libreoffice-calc                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- spreadsheet
ii  libreoffice-common                    1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- arch-independent files
ii  libreoffice-core                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- arch-dependent files
ii  libreoffice-draw                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- drawing
ii  libreoffice-filter-mobiledev          1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- mobile devices filters
ii  libreoffice-impress                   1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- presentation
ii  libreoffice-java-common               1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- arch-independent Java support
rc  libreoffice-math                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- equation editor
ii  libreoffice-report-builder-bin        1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     LibreOffice extension for building database reports -- lib
ii  libreoffice-style-galaxy              1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- Galaxy (Default) symbol style

Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 03:54:13 pm
Before we go any further .. are you planning on digging the hole any deeper, or waiting for instructions ?

It would be pointless me attempting to give you instructions whilst you keep trying things on your own that will inevitably change the instructions I'd have to give you.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 04:02:24 pm
Now I'm waiting
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 04:48:31 pm
OK, let's start by removing LibreOffice:
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sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
then
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sudo apt-get clean
then
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sudo apt-get autoremove
then post the output from:
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sudo find ~/ -name libreoffice
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 10:54:30 pm
Sorry, went out. Billionaire wanted something done now (or his flunkies). OK - removed all that stuff. And get no output when looking for any libre office names. So * means all files with that name? Why would it say "Libre Office not installed" when trying to remove? Cause it was just removing and looking for main program, not all ancillary stuff?

Hope you're still there. Please give me instructions for installing Open Office too, though guess I removed depositories.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 10:59:43 pm
What's the output from:
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dpkg -l | grep libreoffice
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 11:13:13 pm
Only this:
rc  libreoffice-math                      1:4.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1~lucid1                     office productivity suite -- equation editor
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 11:18:00 pm
OK,  let's get rid of OpenOffice too for now ..

Run:
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sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org*
then post the output from:
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dpkg -l | grep openoffice
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 11:27:03 pm
OK. Removed 2 things. No output from GREP
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 11:35:46 pm
run:
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sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
then
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sudo ppa-purge ppa:libreoffice/ppa
then post the output from:
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for APT in `find /etc/apt/ -name *.list`; do grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+" $APT | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f4` PPA=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5` ; echo ppa:$USER/$PPA ; done ; done
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 11:41:11 pm
Will that purge all ppa's so I can't update opera or other things??
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 11:44:41 pm
No .. it will only purge the libreoffice PPA that DOESSN'T contain a version for 10.04
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 15, 2013, 11:46:49 pm
when try to remove Libre PPA:
PPA to be removed: libreoffice ppa
Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: libreoffice ppa

This is 2nd OUTPUT from infinite string:  Its still there.

ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
ppa:tualatrix/ppa
ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0
ppa:libreoffice/ppa
ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque



Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 15, 2013, 11:53:25 pm
OK, fire up Synaptic

go to Settings>Repositories>Other Software (tab)

Find the line similar to

http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu (http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu) lucid main

and remove it

if present also remove

http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu (http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu) lucid (Source Code)

Close synaptic .. and post the output from

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for APT in `find /etc/apt/ -name *.list`; do grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+" $APT | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f4` PPA=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5` ; echo ppa:$USER/$PPA ; done ; done

again
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 12:03:13 am
If I highlight it, will it only remove that one or ALL the depositories that are checked? Figure checked means installed so afraid to uncheck them
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 12:08:32 am
checked means ACTIVE

Yes it will only remove the one that's highlighted
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 12:29:28 am
OK done, no source.

OUTPUT:
ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
ppa:tualatrix/ppa
ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0
ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 12:31:01 am
OK, dya wanna try Libreoffice 4 again, or openoffice ?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 12:31:26 am
Maybe you can give me all the instructions, and expected output, and I'll yell if I have any problems.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 12:33:57 am
Did they change anything from 1 month ago? Yes they changed the depository I first used and apparently second isn't complete. Unless you know another.

Lets try Open Office.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 12:41:47 am
OK, what happens if you run:
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sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer
?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 12:56:30 am
I have no repositories for it now, but I think I did before.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:00:39 am
Eh .. openoffice-writer should be in the default 10.04 repo

IS it in Synaptic ? .. if so install it .. not the whole openoffice, just writer
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 01:02:06 am
This is what happened before we did all this cleaning:  Are we in a new world now?

---- Removed libre-writer. Tried installing openoffice.org-writer, got this:
Oh, gotta add that PPA- that gets purged too?

[email protected]:/home/mako4# apt-get install openoffice.org-writer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  openoffice.org-writer: Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.4) but it is not going to be installed
                         Depends: openoffice.org-base-core (= 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.4) but it is not going to be installed
                         Recommends: openoffice.org-emailmerge but it is not going to be installed
                         Recommends: openoffice.org-math but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:06:52 am
OK, run:
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sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-emailmerge openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-writer
Any errors ?

[edit]

Theres' a PPA with LibreOffice 3.5.7 for 10.04 if you'd prefer to try that ?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 01:08:31 am
Checked Open Office writer and got same:
 unresolved dependencies (make sure needed repositories are added and enabled ):

openoffice.org-writer:
 Depends: openoffice.org-core but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: openoffice.org-base-core but it is not going to be installed
 Recommends: openoffice.org-emailmerge but it is not going to be installed
 Recommends: openoffice.org-math but it is not going to be installed
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:08:55 am
See above
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 01:14:48 am
If it could install the OOo core, etc.. it would have, n'est pas? So it needs another repository for OOo. I think.

Sure whats the ppa for 3.6 Libre, though I looked at it and seemed to have a bunch of bugs, probably less than what I had since it MADE to work with 10.4
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:16:08 am
Have you tried the command ?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 01:17:25 am
No, I'd rather try Libre 3.57
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:20:26 am
OK, fire up synaptic, and remove the repositories for libreoffice-4

then send the output from:
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for APT in `find /etc/apt/ -name *.list`; do grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+" $APT | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f4` PPA=`echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5` ; echo ppa:$USER/$PPA ; done ; done
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 01:28:33 am
done
ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
ppa:tualatrix/ppa
ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 01:30:57 am
run:
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-3-5
then
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sudo apt-get update
then
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sudo apt-get install libreoffice-writer
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:02:26 am
DOne- haven't run it yet.

Got a few warnings. Are these crucial?:

/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 80: dpkg-maintscript-helper: not found
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 80: dpkg-maintscript-helper: not found
Selecting previously deselected package libreoffice-core.
Unpacking libreoffice-core (from .../libreoffice-core_1%3a3.5.7-0ubuntu4~lucid1_amd64.deb) ...
rmdir: failed to remove `/var/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': No such file or directory
rmdir: failed to remove `/var/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4': No such file or directory
Selecting previously deselected package libreoffice-base-core.
Unpacking libreoffice-base-core (from .../libreoffice-base-core_1%3a3.5.7-0ubuntu4~lucid1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python-uno.
Unpacking python-uno (from .../python-uno_1%3a3.5.7-0ubuntu4~lucid1_amd64.deb) ...

Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:09:33 am
Seems OK. Thanks very much. Is the program updatable from inside it?

 Is there a way to save the packages, so one doesn't have to download them again from places that don't have them? Like I could have done with the original or the OOo
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 02:23:09 am
Quote
Is the program updatable from inside it?

Not as far as I know no

Quote
Is there a way to save the packages, so one doesn't have to download them again from places that don't have them? Like I could have done with the original or the OOo

Erm, yes, but you'd have to make sure you downloaded all the dependencies too (if any), and installing them may not be too easy

Theoretically you could clone the PPA, but my advice would be to switch to at least 12.04 or if you don't like Unity, Mint or Peppermint as soon as possible .. up to date software is going to get harder and harder to find for 10.04, and you're no longer receiving security updates.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:31:57 am
OK. Where are they- are they downloaded to one place? Figure if you just dump them back in that place, it will see them on subsequennt installation, not download them over, and also get any dependencies needed. Cause I want the space.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 02:37:08 am
If I'm understanding you .. no .. that wouldn't work anyway, as the version for 10.04 may not work in 12.04 which would have different lib versions, and some dependencies may not even exist in 12.04 any more (depreciated or renamed).

Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:19:12 pm
No, I just want to copy those installation packages to a folder if ever need them again.

Well, sorry to throw any more cold water on you, but Libre does the same weird stuff the last one did: the spell check flags nothing at all, and when you click on a file it opens Sea Monkey first (not when you open it from within the LO).

I know how to purge everything, if I want to install OOo writer, are there any other repositories for it- you think that install core, etc instruction would work, when it couldn't find those dependencies on normal install? Just to complete thread for others with problems- don't plan to mess with it, I think.

What's the difference between installing Pep3 on the first screen or waiting till it loads and doing it from within program. Guess if the LIVE version doesn't load can't trust it to install properly.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 02:22:51 pm
Spell checker, IIRC you have to set it in LO's "Preferences" (and possibly install the dictionary).

Seamonkey issue .. nothing to do with LO .. that's a f**k up in the way your system is dealing with default applications.

What's the contents of:
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gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:42:17 pm

[Added Associations]
text/plain=gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;vlc.desktop;
application/x-extension-DOS=gedit.desktop;
application/x-shellscript=mount-archive.desktop;file-roller.desktop;gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;
image/jpeg=gthumb.desktop;eog.desktop;f-spot-view.desktop;firefox.desktop;
text/html=firefox.desktop;midori.desktop;thunderbird.desktop;bluefish.desktop;gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;seamonkey.desktop;
application/x-extension-goutputstream-2LNPTV=vlc.desktop;totem.desktop;
application/x-extension-goutputstream-IGKPTV=totem.desktop;
message/rfc822=gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;firefox.desktop;midori.desktop;
inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;vlc.desktop;
application/x-trash=gedit.desktop;
application/vnd.ms-access=gedit.desktop;
application/octet-stream=gedit.desktop;totem.desktop;vlc.desktop;
text/x-log=gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;
application/x-extension-IFO=vlc.desktop;
application/msword=openoffice.org-writer.desktop;seamonkey-navigator.desktop;
application/x-extension-vcd=vlc.desktop;
application/x-extension-dat=totem.desktop;vlc.desktop;gedit.desktop;
application/x-sqlite3=gedit.desktop;
audio/x-ms-wma=totem.desktop;vlc.desktop;rhythmbox.desktop;
text/richtext=openoffice.org-writer.desktop;
text/enriched=openoffice.org-writer.desktop;
application/x-php=gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;firefox.desktop;
application/x-executable=file-roller.desktop;mount-archive.desktop;
application/ram=vlc.desktop;totem.desktop;gedit.desktop;openoffice.org-writer.desktop;realplay.desktop;
application/vnd.rn-realmedia=totem.desktop;vlc.desktop;rhythmbox.desktop;
application/x-extension-max=eog.desktop;
video/mp4=totem.desktop;realplay.desktop;vlc.desktop;mplayer.desktop;
video/x-msvideo=totem.desktop;mplayer.desktop;xine.desktop;vlc.desktop;avidemux-gtk.desktop;transmission-gtk.desktop;

[Removed Associations]
application/x-executable=wine.desktop;gedit.desktop;
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 02:48:13 pm
run:
gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list

change the line that reads:

application/msword=openoffice.org-writer.desktop;seamonkey-navigator.desktop;

to

application/msword=openoffice.org-writer.desktop;

SAVE the file .. log off/on (or reboot)

Now try opening a .doc by clicking on it
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 02:58:10 pm
ALready did that, but waited for your confirmation. Yeah it works GREAT.  Open Office will default to Libre if there no OOo?

And didn't have to reboot- maybe you are thinking of Windows?

Can I save those packages before I delete them?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 03:05:35 pm
Save what packages ?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 03:07:10 pm
Libre Office 3.6, what I just installed.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 03:14:07 pm
OK, save the packages FROM WHERE ?
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: mako6 on August 16, 2013, 03:39:57 pm
The Libre INSTALLATION packages- 76megs, that I want to delete. What folder are they in- do all installation packages downloads store in the same place? So I don't have to download them for 40 min, or find they've been deleted from repositories if I ever need them again.
Title: Re: LIBRE OFFICE - how big? Urgent
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on August 16, 2013, 03:49:19 pm
/var/cache/apt/archives

But they may cause you problems installing  on another PC .. they'd almost certainly need to be installed only in 10.04, and also installed in the correct order.
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