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Title: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 05:59:26 pm
Hi all,

Newbie and first post.

Installed this on quite a powerful new build. 8gb ram and AMD 10 processor but video is choppy. Not unwatchable but juddery all the same. The videos were created on window 7 using Camtasia which I believe will not work on Zorin.

I am willing to change distro if it will help. Videos are my main hobby....grandkids....so if I cant get smooth playback/production it may need to be back to Msoft  >:( >:(

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 05, 2013, 06:43:58 pm
What are you trying to play them with ?

Have you tried them in VLC ?

What format are the videos ?
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 07:05:26 pm
VLC and inbuilt media player.

Made in Camtasia and run perfectly in win7. Formats are mp4, h264, and m2ts.

Video side is quite important to me. Should I change for another distro or revert to MS?

Thanks for reply.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 05, 2013, 07:15:10 pm
Dunno how to answer that .. I personally have had no difficulty playing video in Ubuntu based distros (and Zorin is Ubuntu based).

The fact that you mention m2ts makes me think they're high definition video ? .. these are FILES right, not a DVD/Bluray ?

What graphics card do you have, and which drivers are you using ? .. can you open a terminal and run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
and post back what's returned in the terminal.

--
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 05, 2013, 07:39:13 pm
HI Skronk

Have a look at this it might help

http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2010/03/02/how-to-play-m2ts-files-smoothly-using-vlc/ (http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2010/03/02/how-to-play-m2ts-files-smoothly-using-vlc/)


Good luck


Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 09:14:36 pm
Dunno how to answer that .. I personally have had no difficulty playing video in Ubuntu based distros (and Zorin is Ubuntu based).

The fact that you mention m2ts makes me think they're high definition video ? .. these are FILES right, not a DVD/Bluray ?

What graphics card do you have, and which drivers are you using ? .. can you open a terminal and run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
and post back what's returned in the terminal.

--
*-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: Richland [Radeon HD 8670D]
       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
       physical id: 1
       bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
       version: 00
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
       resources: irq:54 memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:f000(size=256) memory:fef00000-fef3ffff
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 09:21:05 pm
HI Skronk

Have a look at this it might help

http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2010/03/02/how-to-play-m2ts-files-smoothly-using-vlc/ ([url]http://http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2010/03/02/how-to-play-m2ts-files-smoothly-using-vlc/[/url])


Good luck


Graeme


Tried it. Just the same. Its the same in VLC and videos player and in preview in Openshot !!!!!
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 05, 2013, 10:21:46 pm
You're using the open source radeon driver .. the proprietary fglrx (catalyst) would probably be better....
(it would also likely provide hardware decoding)

I'm not familiar with Zorin, but is there something in the menu's called "Addition Drivers", or "Software & Updates" ?

If you can't find anything in the menus, try opening a terminal and running:
Code: [Select]
software-properties-gtk
If a dialog opens, select the "Additional Drivers" tab.

Are there any drivers listed there for activation ? .. if so what ?

--
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 05, 2013, 10:38:29 pm
In Zorin You should find additional drivers here


Start>System Tools>System Settings>Additional Drivers





Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 05, 2013, 10:52:43 pm
Ideal .. cheers Emegra .. is that Zorin 7 ? :)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 05, 2013, 11:05:52 pm
Quote
Ideal .. cheers Emegra .. is that Zorin 7


According to the source it's Zorin 7



http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1828726 (http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1828726)

Post  05-29-13, 08:58
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 11:25:55 pm
You're using the open source radeon driver .. the proprietary fglrx (catalyst) would probably be better....
(it would also likely provide hardware decoding)

I'm not familiar with Zorin, but is there something in the menu's called "Addition Drivers", or "Software & Updates" ?

If you can't find anything in the menus, try opening a terminal and running:
Code: [Select]
software-properties-gtk
If a dialog opens, select the "Additional Drivers" tab.

Are there any drivers listed there for activation ? .. if so what ?

--

used the code and installed proprietary driver. Much more choppy now. How can I get the Radeon driver back ?

Also no videos will play now if I select video option instead of VLC. Vlc really quite bad now. Need to roll back to Radeon driver....but how ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 05, 2013, 11:33:15 pm
Which drivers are listed in Additional Drivers ? .. which is what I asked before.

And what's the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
again ?

--
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 05, 2013, 11:38:04 pm
Which drivers are listed in Additional Drivers ? .. which is what I asked before.

AMD/ATI driver and 2 proprietary drivers

And what's the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
again ?

*-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: Richland [Radeon HD 8670D]
       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
       physical id: 1
       bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
       version: 00
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
       resources: irq:54 memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:f000(size=256) memory:fef00000-fef3ffff

--
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 06, 2013, 12:04:01 am
Can you type EXACTLY what's listed in Additional drivers (and say which is currently selected) .. or attach a screenshot.

You're STILL using the open source radeon driver.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 07:08:51 am
Can you type EXACTLY what's listed in Additional drivers (and say which is currently selected) .. or attach a screenshot.

You're STILL using the open source radeon driver.

The above is a copy of post 5 where the Radeon was installed. You may have missed my reply ? I replaced it with the proprietary driver but that made video almost unwatchable....choppy, freezing etc. I have now re-installed the Radeon driver and this has returned things to what they were. Will attach screenpic shortly.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 08:28:46 am
Hope this works !!

(http://linuxforums.org.uk/home/tony/Pictures/Screenshot from 2013-12-06 08:07:41.png)


Obviously not. Don't know how to attach screenshot.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 06, 2013, 09:54:36 am
Hi Skronk

To attach a screenshot (or any file), under the main text box you'll see "Attachments & other options", below that you'll see a sub section headed "Attach" click "Choose file" and navigate to where you saved the screenshot and open to add the attachment, the site has a file size limit so you may have to resize to no larger than 1024kb

Hope this helps


Good luck



Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 10:21:01 am
Thanks Emegra. Try this then.....

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 10:49:28 am
In Zorin You should find additional drivers here


Start>System Tools>System Settings>Additional Drivers





Graeme

Does not seem to offer the last step.....Additional Drivers !!
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 06, 2013, 11:08:48 am
Quote
Does not seem to offer the last step.....Addit ional Drivers !!

So how did you get to "Additional Drivers" as shown by your screenshot ?
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 11:25:25 am
Quote
Does not seem to offer the last step.....Addit ional Drivers !!

So how did you get to "Additional Drivers" as shown by your screenshot ?

I used this code from Mark Greaves

software-properties-gtk
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 06, 2013, 12:04:26 pm
Can you try the fglrx-updates driver.

I'd be amazed if the proprietary drivers from AMD were worse than the open source ones  :o

After installing fglrx and rebooting .. is there a Catalyst Control Panel in the menu's somewhere ?

and can you post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
again, so we can be sure fglrx loaded

can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
ls -a /etc/X11
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 06, 2013, 12:04:33 pm
Can you clarify what version of Zorin you're running and if your system is 32 or 64 bit ?






Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 12:08:18 pm
Can you clarify what version of Zorin you're running and if your system is 32 or 64 bit ?






Graeme

Latest Zorin 7.1 64 bit.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 12:21:06 pm
Can you try the fglrx-updates driver.

I'd be amazed if the proprietary drivers from AMD were worse than the open source ones  :o

After installing fglrx and rebooting .. is there a Catalyst Control Panel in the menu's somewhere ?

and can you post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
again, so we can be sure fglrx loaded

can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
ls -a /etc/X11

Just been told I am going shopping !!! Sorry for delay. Will be 1-2 hours. Be back then.

Thanks
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 06, 2013, 12:42:21 pm
Okey dokey :)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 03:37:15 pm
Can you try the fglrx-updates driver.

I'd be amazed if the proprietary drivers from AMD were worse than the open source ones  :o

After installing fglrx and rebooting .. is there a Catalyst Control Panel in the menu's somewhere ?

and can you post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo lshw -C display
again, so we can be sure fglrx loaded

can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
ls -a /etc/X11

No catalyst panel as I can see.

screenshots....


Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 03:38:13 pm
next one.....
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 03:44:13 pm
Now have "AMD unsupported hardware" in bottom right corner
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 06, 2013, 03:53:54 pm
Have found Catalyst Control Center.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 06, 2013, 10:20:57 pm
Can you run:
sudo updatedb
then post the output from
Code: [Select]
locate xorg.conf

as catalyst doesn't apper to have created one.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 09:21:16 am
Can you run:
sudo updatedb
then post the output from
Code: [Select]
locate xorg.conf

as catalyst doesn't apper to have created one.

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 12:51:08 pm
Hi ,

Spent all morning playing same (freshly recorded) clip on Zorin. Whether I select VLC Sm player, or Videos, the play back is not smooth. Certainly not unwatchable, but not smooth. On playing same clip in Win 7 laptop   (i3 and 6gb) using VLC, Media player and Media player classic the results are smooth as silk.

Now, I really want to use a Linux base as, short of the video editing, I have found all I want to do from a second computer.

This is new build with AMD A10k proc with inbuilt HD radeon grahics and 8gb fast 2100 ram so I'm not thinking it's the processing power of machine !

Prior to install of Zorin, Camtasia ran fine on the machine with Win 8 trial and all playback using above progs. was smooth.

Can I install another Linux to run alongside Zorin like Windows dual boot ?

Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 07, 2013, 01:46:46 pm
Seems to me this is JUST a driver issue .. you STILL don't have an xorg.conf file in the right location.

is there an option in the catalyst control center to create one .. or "save settings" or similar ?

if not, we'll try manually creating one.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 02:42:05 pm
Seems to me this is JUST a driver issue .. you STILL don't have an xorg.conf file in the right location.

is there an option in the catalyst control center to create one .. or "save settings" or similar ?

if not, we'll try manually creating one.

I certainly cant see an option. Please find screenshot

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 07, 2013, 03:15:59 pm
OK, what happens if you run:
Code: [Select]
sudo aticonfig --initial -f
then what's the output from
Code: [Select]
ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf

I'm going to post a link here that it may be a good idea to reed before you reboot .. specially the bit on what to do if you get a black screen after rebooting
http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775 (http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 03:18:40 pm
OK, what happens if you run:
Code: [Select]
sudo aticonfig --initial -f

No support adapters detected
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 03:21:23 pm
then what's the output from
Code: [Select]
ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 07, 2013, 04:07:32 pm
OK, let's try this a different way

See here:
http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html (http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html)

do you think you could do that, or do you require help ?

if you need assistance, please post the output from:
Code: [Select]
uname -a
so we can see if you're running 32 or 64bit
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 04:45:28 pm
uname -a

Seems a wee bit of a nightmare. I could just spend £70 for win 8 and it will work. People have been good enough to tolerate this for 39 posts and I am still no farther on.

Would like to use Linux but now being less convinced.

MS may suck but at least it works !!
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 07, 2013, 04:52:20 pm
That's a matter of opinion ;)

If the ATI drivers weren't loading properly in Windows, would you blame M$ or ATI .. and would you give up and buy a Mac, or try to figure where the problem is ?

The ATI drivers seem to work for most other people .. though I must admit their installation method leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 07, 2013, 04:54:44 pm
Hi skronk

if you paste the code

Code: [Select]
uname -a 

into your terminal and post the output maybe we can make some progress



Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 07, 2013, 10:12:07 pm
Hi skronk

if you paste the code

Code: [Select]
uname -a 

into your terminal and post the output maybe we can make some progress



Graeme

Screenshot.............

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 08, 2013, 08:09:17 am
Ok it looks like you're running the 64 bit version, and I think Mark was guiding you towards following the instructions on the link he posted here

http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html

but it would be better to wait and take your instructions from him at this point

also when posting terminal output back here it's much easier to simply copy and paste from your terminal directly here instead of attaching a screenshot and to make it easier to understand you can code wrap it by highlighting it and clicking on the # icon at the top of the text box



Graeme


Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 08, 2013, 10:23:16 am
Ok it looks like you're running the 64 bit version, and I think Mark was guiding you towards following the instructions on the link he posted here

[url]http://http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html[/url]

but it would be better to wait and take your instructions from him at this point

also when posting terminal output back here it's much easier to simply copy and paste from your terminal directly here instead of attaching a screenshot and to make it easier to understand you can code wrap it by highlighting it and clicking on the # icon at the top of the text box



Graeme


Thanks. I will wait then. I am in no rush. Its just frustrating that with the video side being the final hurdle, I feel so close to a good wee system !
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 08, 2013, 10:40:15 am
Quote
Thanks. I will wait then. I am in no rush. Its just frustrating that with the video side being the final hurdle, I feel so close to a good wee system !

Yeah I know these things are frustrating but if anyone can sort this out for you Mark can, I'm sure this is fixable and you'll have more than "a good wee system" with the spec you have, any Ubuntu based distro should fly on that machine, My PC is no where near as powerful as yours and I can play video fine


Good luck



Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 09, 2013, 02:40:25 pm
Played with this all yesterday and today. There seems to be some incompatibility between Openshot and Zorin / Mint 16 and Ubuntu.

Placing the SD in Win 8 with Camtasia pictures are smooth as silk.

Trying really hard not to pull the trigger on Win 8 !!!
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 09, 2013, 04:43:14 pm
Do you think you could follow the instructions for installing the 64 bit driver ?

http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html (http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html)

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install dh-modaliases libelfg0 execstack build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 ia32-libs

then

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get -f install wget -O ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb http://goo.gl/dylWp

then

Code: [Select]
sudo dpkg -i ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb; rm ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb

then follow the instructions as per the link

it looks like this is where Mark was guiding you to in his last instruction but if you're unsure you can wait till he or someone more knowledgeable than me comes along

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 09, 2013, 04:57:16 pm
Emegra,

Thanks for reply.

Can enter 1st command no problem.

However 2nd returns this.....tony@Tony-pc:~$ sudo apt-get -f install wget -O ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb http://goo.gl/dylWp
E: Command line option 'O' [from -O] is not known.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 09, 2013, 06:21:16 pm
Quote
Can enter 1st command no problem.

However 2nd returns this.....tony@Tony-pc:~$ sudo apt-get -f install wget -O ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb [url]http://http://goo.gl/dylWp[/url]
E: Command line option 'O' [from -O] is not known.


Not really sure exactly why you're getting an error there,  that command was copied directly off their site so it's not a typo

unfortunately any further instructions I try to give run the risk of making things worse for you and I don't want to do that

so try to hang in there it certainly does look like this is a driver issue, but there are a lot of smarter guys than me on this site so hopefully someone will sort it out for you



Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 09, 2013, 06:58:33 pm
Thanks anyway Emegra.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: SeZo on December 09, 2013, 10:02:19 pm
However 2nd returns this.....tony@Tony-pc:~$ sudo apt-get -f install wget -O ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb [url]http://http://goo.gl/dylWp[/url]
E: Command line option 'O' [from -O] is not known.

I think you will find that this should be run independently:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get -f install
meant to fix any missing dependencies arising as a result of the previous command.
Next just run to download:
Code: [Select]
wget -O ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb http://goo.gl/dylWp
followed by this to install and clean up:
Code: [Select]
sudo dpkg -i ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb; rm ati-amd-v2.4-NoobsLab64.deb
Just sayin. ;)

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 09, 2013, 10:07:36 pm
@ SeZo

Yeah I think you're right

I just copied each command up the the next sudo statement, the second command doesn't start with sudo I see it now


SeZo to the rescue :)




Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 07:36:41 am
So should I use the 3 lines from Sezo as opposed to the lines from Emegra ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 10, 2013, 07:46:07 am
Quote
So should I use the 3 lines from Sezo as opposed to the lines from Emegra ?

Use the 3 lines one at a time as suggested by SeZo


Good luck



Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 09:54:14 am
Hi,

Entered 3 lines above one at a time, re-booted. Alas.....just the very same !

Disappointing, as everything else is fine.

Thanks again to all for their input.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Emegra on December 10, 2013, 12:00:02 pm
Yes it is disappointing coincidentally there's a thread ongoing at the moment started by Tramlink regarding ATI driver issues so it may be that ATI graphics are not a good choice for Linux, I personally don't have much experience with ATI graphic cards so I'm not really qualified to form an opinion on that.

I don't think this is unfixable but it's a little out of my league so there's little I can suggest now that would help other than looking through the Catalyst Control Center and looking for any tweaks you can make such as enabling/disabling hardware acceleration etc.

If this is a desktop PC and you had another spare graphics card  (preferably not ATI) it would be interesting to see how that performs, so don't give up and hopefully someone will come up with a solution


Good luck


Graeme
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 10, 2013, 12:32:13 pm
Running those 3 commands doesn't install the driver .. it installs an application that downloads and configures the driver.

Have you followed the rest of the instructions here:
http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html (http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html)
?

If you did that, did you enable hardware video acceleration ?
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 12:58:15 pm
Running those 3 commands doesn't install the driver .. it installs an application that downloads and configures the driver.

Have you followed the rest of the instructions here:
http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html ([url]http://http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html[/url])
?

If you did that, did you enable hardware video acceleration ?


I am sorry Mark, I don't quite understand it !!!
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 10, 2013, 01:00:28 pm
Somewhere in your menu's you should find an application called "Ubntu AMD Catalyst Installer" .. have you found that and run it yet ?
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 01:35:53 pm
Somewhere in your menu's you should find an application called "Ubntu AMD Catalyst Installer" .. have you found that and run it yet ?

This was not on the menu until this morning. However when I access it and press OK nothing happens !
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 02:05:47 pm
Don't know if this helps on system settings

Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 02:19:45 pm
Worthwhile installing one of these ?

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 10, 2013, 02:41:55 pm
Before trying that .. is theree an option in your current Catalyst Control Centre to turn on "Hardware Accelerated video decoding" or similar ?

Have you set VLC to use hardware acceleration ?

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/XTgiI.jpg)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 03:11:17 pm
Hi,

No option in Catalyst Control Centre.

Accelarated GPU in VLC selected already..

However symptoms are the same using SMplayer, built in media player and VLC !!

When using Openshot symptoms become increased.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 10, 2013, 04:08:46 pm
I have a feeling we've tried this before, but what happens if you run:
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sudo aticonfig --initial -f
?
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 05:02:45 pm
I have a feeling we've tried this before, but what happens if you run:
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sudo aticonfig --initial -f
?

sudo aticonfig --initial -f

No supported adapters detected.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 10, 2013, 07:03:58 pm
OK, seems your APU isn't supported in the 13.4 drivers .. but it is in >= 13.6 (beta) drivers.

So let's install the 13.11 beta drivers from ATI.....

Enter commands below EXACTLY as typed .. capital letters where used ;)

Open a terminal and run:
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sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg0 dh-modaliases ia32-libs-multiarch lib32gcc1 
(to install some build/dependencies)

Now run
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mkdir ~/Desktop/catalyst13.11-temporary
then download this file:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip)
and put it in the catalyst13.11-temporary diectory that's now on your desktop.

Now back in a the terminal run:
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cd ~/Desktop/catalyst13.11-temporary
then
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unzip amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip
then
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sudo sh *.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring

Hopefully that will have built the installation packages.

DO NOT install them yet (there's some stuff left to do first) .. after completing the above, just post the output from:
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ls -a ~/Desktop/catalyst13.11-temporary



Can you also go back to the open source drivers (in Addition Drivers), reboot, and post the output from:
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lsudo lshw -C display
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 10, 2013, 08:56:54 pm
Wifes friend has popped in.

True joy !

Will try in the morning.
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 11, 2013, 02:33:18 am
No problem .. whenever you're ready :)

Quote
True joy !

You've gotta love sarcasm :)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 11, 2013, 10:11:33 pm
Hi,

Sorry computer not working too well today and other lappy is windows !

Tried first command and get this...is it correct ? It appears not to find anything !

ony@Tony-pc:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg0 dh-modaliases ia32-libs-multiarch i386 libunzip amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip32gcc1 libc6-i386
[sudo] password for tony:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package i386
E: Unable to locate package libunzip
E: Unable to locate package amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip32gcc1
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip32gcc1'
tony@Tony-pc:~$
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 11, 2013, 11:29:45 pm
My apologies .. dunno what happened there, a copy/paste seems to ahve picked up some spurious entries.

First command fixed above .. so try again :)
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: skronk on December 12, 2013, 09:45:43 am
My apologies .. dunno what happened there, a copy/paste seems to ahve picked up some spurious entries.

First command fixed above .. so try again :)


Cant download file you suggest

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/incomplete
Title: Re: Choppy juddery video Zorin 7.1
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on December 12, 2013, 10:21:42 am
You'll have to go here:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Latest-LINUX-Beta-Driver.aspx (http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Latest-LINUX-Beta-Driver.aspx)
and click the link .. for some reason you can't copy/paste that link and it still work  ::)
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