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Title: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 07:20:59 pm

Hi guys

Over the past few weeks I've been switching over from Freenas to Openmediavault on my NAS and it's finally done and stable at last, I have 6 shares all visible in Gigolo, I would like to mount the shares in /mnt which requires editing /etc/fstab file something I'm not competent enough to do myself.

any help would be much appreciated

Many thanks

Graeme

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 07:31:25 pm

Okeydokey .. what's the output from:

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sudo fdisk -l

and

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sudo blkid

and

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mount

and the current contents of

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gedit /etc/fstab

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 07:34:57 pm

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[email protected] ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for graeme: 

Disk /dev/sda: 360.1 GB, 360080695296 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 43777 cylinders, total 703282608 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000001

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   358106348   179052150+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2       358107134   703281151   172587009    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       358107136   699107327   170500096   83  Linux
/dev/sda6       699109376   703281151     2085888   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[email protected] ~ $ sudo blkid
/dev/sda1: LABEL="Windows 7" UUID="02CAA59322478EE4" TYPE="ntfs" 
/dev/sda5: UUID="034e3cfc-8511-446b-98eb-9e88283cf12a" TYPE="ext4" 
/dev/sda6: UUID="50359b49-a810-460e-befa-9616af24bcba" TYPE="swap" 
[email protected] ~ $ mount
/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/graeme/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=graeme)
[email protected] ~ $

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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=034e3cfc-8511-446b-98eb-9e88283cf12a / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=50359b49-a810-460e-befa-9616af24bcba none swap sw 0 0

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 07:57:19 pm

Am I missing something .. I can only see one HDD there.

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 08:29:22 pm

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Am I missing something .. I can only see one HDD there.

There is only one HDD, did you want that information from the PC or the NAS ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 09:56:55 pm

Oh, hang on .. you're trying to mount remote shares ?

has the NAS got a static IP ?

Can you mount the shares through gigolo .. THEN post the output from:

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mount

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:01:42 pm

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you're trying to mount remote shares ?

Yes

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has the NAS got a static IP ?

Yes 192.168.2.50

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Can you mount the shares through gigolo

Yes

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[email protected] ~ $ mount
/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/graeme/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=graeme)
[email protected] ~ $

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:07:33 pm

OK, that didn't give me what I wanted :o .. were the shares mounted through gigolo when you ran "mount" to list the mounts ?

Do you know the path to the shares .. such as

//192.168.2.50/share/video
//192.168.2.50/share/music
etc ?

If not, navigate to the share in file manager .. then what does it say in the file manager address bar ?

[EDIT]

and do the shares require login credentials ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:17:55 pm

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Doyou know the path to the shares .. such as

They are all samba shares, on 192.168.2.50, the share names are

family-tree
graeme
pat
multimedia
movies
backups
utilities

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:21:32 pm

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and do the shares require login credentials ?

No they are all set for any user no password

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:25:13 pm

just to be 100% sure .. can you open file manager, and in the address bar enter:

smb://192.168.2.50/family-tree
and hit enter
then
smb://192.168.2.50/graeme
then
smb://192.168.2.50/pat
then
smb://192.168.2.50/multimedia
then
smb://192.168.2.50/movies
then
smb://192.168.2.50/backups
then
smb://192.168.2.50/utilities

were all the shares contents visible as expected ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:29:10 pm

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were all the shares contents visible as expected ?

Yes

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:34:51 pm

OK, first let's create the mount points:

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sudo mkdir -p /mnt/NAS

then

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cd /mnt/NAS

then

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sudo mkdir family-tree graeme pat multimedia movies backups utilities

close the terminal and confirm those directories exist in /mnt/NAS

or just post the output from:

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ls -a /mnt

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:37:20 pm

ok thats worked fine all the share folders are located at /mnt/NAS

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:41:26 pm

Backup fstab .. just in case:

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sudo cp -v /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup

then we'll mount the sharesss through ftsab one at a time.

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:43:07 pm

ok that's that done :)

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:49:28 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a new line at the bottom that reads:-

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# NAS shares

Then add another line below that that reads

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//192.168.2.50/family-tree /mnt/NAS/family-tree cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

so the last 2 lines now read

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# NAS shares
//192.168.2.50/family-tree /mnt/NAS/family-tree cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/family-tree

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 10:55:14 pm

ok that worked I can see all the folders and create and delete a new folder

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 10:59:58 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/graeme /mnt/NAS/graeme cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/graeme

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:02:17 pm

so far so good :)

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:03:31 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/pat /mnt/NAS/pat cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/pat

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:05:22 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/multimedia /mnt/NAS/multimedia cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/multimedia

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:06:30 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/movies /mnt/NAS/movies cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/movies

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:07:20 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/backups /mnt/NAS/backups cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/backups

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:08:00 pm

ok that works fine :)

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:09:22 pm

Open fstab for editing:

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sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add a single new line at the bottom that reads:-

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//192.168.2.50/utilities /mnt/NAS/utilities cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

SAVE the file.

Open another terminal and run:

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sudo mount -a

if any errors .. post them here .. if not, navigate to /mnt/NAS/utilities

Can you see the contents as expected, and can you create a file or folder there ?

If so .. tesst a reboot works .. if not, comment out thse lines from a LiveCD if necessary

Then you can remove gigolo if you wish.

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:10:34 pm

Have you done ALL of them ? .. I added some more whilst waiting ;)

Effectively your fstab should now end with:-

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# NAS shares
//192.168.2.50/family-tree /mnt/NAS/family-tree cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/graeme /mnt/NAS/graeme cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/pat /mnt/NAS/pat cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/multimedia /mnt/NAS/multimedia cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/movies /mnt/NAS/movies cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/backups /mnt/NAS/backups cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
//192.168.2.50/utilities /mnt/NAS/utilities cifs iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0

and you've checked they all work, and you can reboot without issue ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:14:30 pm

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Have you done ALL of them ? .. I added some more whilst waiting

ok all done and all right and correct, going to reboot now

watch this space :)

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:16:48 pm

watching.......

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:19:48 pm

shares didn't mount on reboot, although they're listed in /etc/fstab

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:21:45 pm

is this Peppermint 4 ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:22:19 pm

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is this Peppermint 4 ?

Yes

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:23:41 pm

So what's the output from

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mount

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:24:39 pm

[email protected] ~ $ mount
/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/graeme/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=graeme)
gvfsd-fuse on /home/graeme/.gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[email protected] ~ $

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:28:04 pm

run:

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sudo mount -a

then post the output from:

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mount

is this PC connected wirelessly ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:30:48 pm

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[email protected] ~ $ sudo mount -a
[sudo] password for graeme: 
[email protected] ~ $ mount
/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/graeme/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=graeme)
gvfsd-fuse on /home/graeme/.gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)
//192.168.2.50/family-tree on /mnt/NAS/family-tree type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/graeme on /mnt/NAS/graeme type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/pat on /mnt/NAS/pat type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/multimedia on /mnt/NAS/multimedia type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/movies on /mnt/NAS/movies type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/backups on /mnt/NAS/backups type cifs (rw)
//192.168.2.50/utilities on /mnt/NAS/utilities type cifs (rw)
[email protected] ~ $

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is this PC connected wirelessly ?

Yes but the NAS is connected directly to the router via ethernet

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:39:45 pm

OK something tells me the shares are being brought up earlier than the network .. which is odd as cifs should wait :/

I know in PM3 you had to use smbfs and add a switch to tell it to wait.

Erm .. you may have to gimme till tomorrow to search for a solution as that switch doesn't work with cifs

You online tomorrow ?

try shutting down .. then restarting the PC .. see if that works ?

is this the respin or the original PM4 ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:42:55 pm

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You online tomorrow ?

Yeah I'll be on in the afternoon, my grandaughter stays with us from 5pm and I try to spend the evening with her on a saturday

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:44:34 pm

is this the respin ?

what's the output from:

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dpkg -l | grep smb

and

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dpkg -l | grep cifs

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 11:49:43 pm

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is this the respin ?

No it was installed with a pre respin disc and updated

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[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep smb
ii  libsmbclient:i386                         2:3.6.9-1ubuntu1.2                       i386         shared library for communication with SMB/CIFS servers
ii  python-smbc                               1.0.13-0ubuntu4                          i386         Python bindings for Samba clients (libsmbclient)
ii  smbclient                                 2:3.6.9-1ubuntu1.2                       i386         command-line SMB/CIFS clients for Unix
[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep cifs
ii  cifs-utils                                2:5.5-1ubuntu2                           i386         Common Internet File System utilities
[email protected] ~ $

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 07, 2014, 11:56:23 pm

OK, leave it with me till tomorrow..

We have 2 options here .. figure out why cifs isn't waiting for the network to come up .. or possibly run a script with a delay that runs "mount -a"

We'll figure it out :)

Odd that cifs waits on my system .. and keeps attempting to connect till it gets there.

Have you still got gigolo installed, and are the mounts set to automount in that ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 08, 2014, 12:05:58 am

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Have you still got gigolo installed, and are the mounts set to automount in that ?

Yes Gigolo is still installed and all shares set to automount, would it be worth trying un-installing Gigolo and rebooting again ?

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 08, 2014, 12:08:16 am

I doubt if it'll make a difference, but worth a shot .. until tomorrow, you'd just need to run:

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sudo mount -a

after rebooting.

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 08, 2014, 12:11:02 am

ok see you tomorrow then thanks again for your help

Graeme

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 08, 2014, 01:26:42 am

Try this...

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sudo gedit /etc/network/if-up.d/my-custom-mountall

when a BLANK file opens, make it read:-

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#!/bin/sh
mount -a

SAVE the file, and close gedit.

Back in the terminal run:

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sudo chmod +x /etc/network/if-up.d/my-custom-mountall

reboot to test.

If that doesn't work .. just delete the /etc/network/if-up.d/my-custom-mountall file.

Title: Re: A little help with fstab
Post by: Emegra on February 08, 2014, 08:06:40 am

Sorted :)

Thank you Mark

You're some man to be one man :)

Graeme

Title: Re: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 08, 2014, 01:29:10 pm

I'm still surprised that was necessary .. I thought mount.cifs was supposed to be smart enough to wait for the network to come up .. that's why they did away with the "_netdev" option.

possibly something in your setup that make it "think" the network is up ???

Title: Re: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Emegra on February 08, 2014, 02:30:58 pm

I have no idea what the problem is but I had to do the same thing with the wifes PC also running PM4 on the same network, it may have something to do with the way I've set up the shares on the NAS, but the important thing is it's working and I'm happy with that

Many thanks again :)

Graeme

Title: Re: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 08, 2014, 04:54:42 pm

No problem :)

BTW, how do you know there's not more than one of me ? .. I could even be a clever automated response system (with an attitude).

Title: Re: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Emegra on February 08, 2014, 05:17:50 pm

You couldn't give an automated response system that amount of attitude, the technology just isn't there yet :P

Graeme

Title: Re: A little help with fstab (SOLVED)
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 08, 2014, 05:27:48 pm

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Support => General Help & Advice => Topic started by: Emegra on February 07, 2014, 07:20:59 pm