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Title: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 14, 2011, 08:21:28 pm
Has anyone discovered a way of printing from linux? I have a kodak 5250 aio. I have tried open source and it finds the driver but of course it don't work. mainly because this is linux not windows and nothing is simple!!
If anyone has a step by step guide on how to use such a site it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 14, 2011, 11:10:14 pm
As far as I can tell there is no easy way to install this printer in Linpus Lite as the drivers (c2esp) are only available for Ubuntu/Mint/Debian (.deb file) or as source code, but Linpus Lite doesn't have the kernel source, headers, gcc, or any of the other build tools required to build from source.

Bit of friendly advice, comments like -
Quote
mainly because this is linux not windows and nothing is simple!!
say more about Linpus Lite than Linux as a whole, they also show your only Linux experience is with the outdated Linux distribution that Acer decided to install on the AA1 .. this type of comment is also unlikely to win you many friends on a Linux forum ;)

It would also be nice if Kodak supported Linux, rather than leaving the drivers to others .. if you want FULL Linux support, first get rid of Linpus Lite and install an up-to-date Linux distribution, then get an HP printer.

If you want to *try* using the pre-compiled i386 binaries for Ubuntu and the .ppd .. let me know and I'll upload them to my dropbox and write up some installation instructions, but I have no idea if they will work .. and at best they will only give you the ability to print, not scan or fax.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 15, 2011, 03:54:03 pm
hi
firstly an apology for any comments about linux distribution . I just get so frustrated over the complicated way the novice like myself is expected to download programmes. it is lightning fast for searching the web and from start up compared to windows but simple tasks like printing is almost impossible. Yes i know the acer aspire one is a net book, but the ability to print would be nice also :)
i would be most greatful if u could download instructions for me, i don't need to scan etc just print.
kind regards, and thanks,
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on November 15, 2011, 04:17:22 pm
Linux isn't a distribution, only a kernel. If I were you, I'd complain to Acer the OEM, to install an updated version of a Linux distro. Something like Lubuntu or Kubuntu would be more suited rather than the full Ubuntu desktop OS. Since Lubuntu, & Kubuntu use the Ubuntu repositories and all other things from Ubuntu, you'd have lots of support, lots of up to date software and things like the drivers for Kodak printers would be easier to install. I've only been using Ubuntu for 17 months and it's been easy as pie to install anything. You just have to get round the new learning curve, and get rid of the old stupid windows habits and your experience will be golden everytime. Granted Ubuntu, or Linux itself isn't perfect, but neither is Windows/Mac OS X. :)

If I were you, I'd get rid of Linpus Lite and update to a distro like Lubuntu or Kubuntu. That way you'll be able to enjoy up to date software.



I've only been using Ubuntu for about 
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 15, 2011, 07:52:32 pm
As I said, this may or may not work .. but here goes ..

OK, open a terminal .. you can do this by hitting Alt+F2 then in the resulting box enter terminal anf hit enter.

a terminal window will open .. enter:
Code: [Select]
wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11876059/c2esp.tar.gz
and hit enter.

then still in the terminal enter:
Code: [Select]
sudo tar -xvf c2esp.tar.gz --directory /
and hit enter.

When that command finishes .. REBOOT

When the system has restarted .. Plug your printer into a USB socket, and turn it ON

The printer *may* be autodetected, and you offered a configuration button .. if it isn't ..

Open Firefox and in the URL/Address bar, enter:
localhost:631

You will be presented with the CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) interface ..

Click the Administration tab

Click Find New Printers .. if it is listed, follow the instructions .. if not ..

Click the Administration tab

Click Add Printer

Name = kodak5250aio
Location = <whatever you want>
Description = <whatever you want>

Click Continue .. and follow the instructions.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 16, 2011, 12:40:09 pm
As I said, this may or may not work .. but here goes ..

OK, open a terminal .. you can do this by hitting Alt+F2 then in the resulting box enter terminal anf hit enter.

a terminal window will open .. enter:
Code: [Select]
wget [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11876059/c2esp.tar.gz[/url]
and hit enter.

then still in the terminal enter:
Code: [Select]
sudo tar -xvf c2esp.tar.gz --directory /
and hit enter.

When that command finishes .. REBOOT

When the system has restarted .. Plug your printer into a USB socket, and turn it ON

The printer *may* be autodetected, and you offered a configuration button .. if it isn't ..

Open Firefox and in the URL/Address bar, enter:
localhost:631

You will be presented with the CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) interface ..

Click the Administration tab

Click Find New Printers .. if it is listed, follow the instructions .. if not ..

Click the Administration tab

Click Add Printer

Name = kodak5250aio
Location = <whatever you want>
Description = <whatever you want>

Click Continue .. and follow the instructions.
hey mark
thanks for that, it found my printer which is great. when i tried to print there was no movement from the printer. i have a small printer icon bottom right which says 2 documents held in queue. Think its on the verge and most likely its something i have not done. Any ideas would be great, many thanks,
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 16, 2011, 01:39:43 pm
All I can suggest is deleting the printer in  the CUPS interface, and trying again .. experiment a little.

Meanwhile I'll go through the debian post install routine to see if there's anything I missed.

BUT .. as I said before, there's a good chance this WILL NOT WORK .. there is NO version of the driver that's specifically designed for Linpus Lite, or any other .rpm based Linux distro .. the only sure fire method of installation on anything other than a .deb based distro is compiling and installing from source code, but Linpus Lite is incapable of doing this.

My real advice would be to switch to a more recent (and Debian based) disto, such as PeppermintOS, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. .. then the drivers will be a double-click to install thing.

or get an older HP printer ;)



Think of it like this .. Linpus Lite is (in Windows terms) Windows 95, yet the drivers were probably built for (the Linux equivalent of) Window Vista/Win7

I very much doubt if you'll get Windows 95 drivers for your printer either ;)

But in the Windows world, when no Win95 drivers available, you're stuck .. In the Linux world, the source code for the drivers is *usually* available, so you can compile them yourself .. the problem is that because Linpus Lite is a VERY trimmed down and customised version of Fedora core 8, it doesn't contain the tools to compile from source and there's no easy way to install those either.

In the near future, I'm going to be attempting to install Fedora core 8 in a virtual machine .. to see if more recent software and drivers can be compiled in that, then packaged for Linpus Lite .. but in all honesty, I wouldn't hold your breath.

As previously mentioned .. best bet would be to install PeppermintOS (or similar) then effectively you're running the Linux equivalent of Vista/Win7 and the drivers will install easily.

PeppermintOS, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, they're all free, and you can test drive them first by running them from a USB stick if you wish .. if you want further info on creating a LiveUSB stick, just ask.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 16, 2011, 07:13:35 pm
hi mark
i would like to try what you said, i have usb sticks laying about, i take it one i have used in windows os also works with linux? Test driving them first is a great idea.
the printer icon is still showing documents held in queue. Sounds silly but i'm pleased its even got as far as that!
I look forward to any instructions you are able to give me.
cheers,
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 16, 2011, 07:23:55 pm
Which would you like to try first ? .. PeppermintOS is damn fast and so far my favorite on the AA1, but will require you to manually install an office suite, etc. if you regularly use one on your AA1 .. by default it uses the online Google Docs (which is fine if you have an active internet connection, but a pain if not) .. it's easy to install LibreOffice (that's an updated OpenOffice), just thought I'd let you know first.

The reason I like PeppermintOS for the AA1 is that it DOESN'T come with a load of stuff that you will never use preinstalled .. but obviously this means you may have to install some stuff you DO need (all very easy to add the package manager) ;)

Might be a good idea if you let me know what applications you use on the AA1 .. ie. things you NEED .. and I'll try to advise on the best one to test drive first .. and how to put it on a LiveUSB.

Have you got access to a Windows PC ?

And a >= 2GB USB stick ? .. 4GB would be better.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 16, 2011, 08:37:41 pm
happy to try which ever one you think might get my kodak printer  on the move some. I really only use the aa1 for emails ane net browsing. Whenever i use it its always connected to the net. i do have access to a windows laptop and a 4gig usb stick. an office set up would be handy though, because you never know. But the ability to print would be my first choice.
as always, much appreciated,
thanks, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 17, 2011, 07:22:19 pm
OK, on your Windows PC, download the PeppermintOS (two) ISO image from here:
http://peppermintos.info/dl2/Peppermint-Two-i386-06052011.iso (http://peppermintos.info/dl2/Peppermint-Two-i386-06052011.iso)
or see here:
http://peppermintos.com/download/ (http://peppermintos.com/download/)

Once you've got the ISO image .. download Universal USB Installer from here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.9.exe (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.9.exe)
or see here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/)

Start Universal USB Installer, and at ..

Step 1 .. In the drop down list, select PeppermintOS (Two)
Step 2  .. point it at the ISO image you downloaded
Step 3 .. Choose your (already plugged in >= 4GB) USB stick .. probably best to let it format it too, so backup its contents first.
Step 4 .. Set the slider to at least a 2GB persistence file .. so you can save changes, like adding the printer driver, LibreOffice, Firefox, etc. to test.
(the persistence option *says* optional, but you NEED one)

Heres a pic of the Universal USB Creator interface

(http://linuxforums.org.uk/MGalleryItem.php?id=1510)

Click Create .. and wait till it's done .. it will take a while, and *may* appear to have stopped .. but just wait till it says it's "Done" .. as in the following pic

Pic of Universal USB Installer .. Installing to USB Stick

(http://linuxforums.org.uk/MGalleryItem.php?id=1509)

Once the LiveUSB has been created, click Close, plug it into your AA1, then turn ON your AA1 .. as soon as you see the first screen (Acer Empowering People), hit the F12 key to access the boot device selection screen .. and select the USB stick as the drive to boot from and hit Enter to boot.

When asked, select "Try Peppermint" NOT "Install Peppermint"

Be aware .. running from a USB stick will be quite a bit slower that running it from the internal SSD after installation, so don't draw any conclusions about speed at this point ;)

I *can* tell you that once installed, it takes about 15 - 20 seconds longer to boot than Linpus Lite .. but once booted it loads/runs applications just as quickly .. and has access to all the latest software.

Once you've got that going .. let me know ..  and I'll tell you how to install your printer drivers, and some other stuff such as LibreOffice, Firefox (rather than Chrome), Thunderbird (if you need it) .. and how to achieve things like auto login, and get the wireless to auto start every boot, etc.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on November 18, 2011, 04:57:46 am
Thanks Mark,
i'm back to work for 5 straight days now but will give it a go as soon as i'm off again. i need to dedicate a little time to it as does not sound like a 20 minute job  ;).
thanks very much and i will let you know as soon as i have loaded it on my usb.
cheers,
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on November 18, 2011, 10:48:14 am
other than for the download (which you can start overnight) it's not that much work to get it on the USB and will probably take about 20mins including installing the printer drivers .. BUT the time consuming part will be getting it set up the way you want.

There were a few things I had to do to get it "right" .. but at least I know how, so can advise .. the thing that took the most time was learning how .. not something you need to do, as I'll tell you.

Here's the list of things I added/sorted .. and the aprox time it will take

1) enter the wireless key and connect .. 1min
2) enable wireless autoconnect .. by default you had to turn wireless on every boot .. 1min
3) enable the extra repos .. 2min
4) enable auto login (if you want) .. 2min
5) run an update .. 7min
6) install apt-xapian-index
7) install firefox
8.) install vlc
9) install libreoffice-writer
10) install libreoffice-calc
11) install thunderbird
12) install pidgin (or amsn) IM client
13) install lubuntu-restricted-extras

all the software can be installed with a single command, and will take about 5 mins to install

Done :)

So add it all together, and giving yourself time to read the instructions and digest them .. a couple of hours (as long as you already have the ISO image and application I mentioned in the last post).

But whenever you're ready :)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 12:20:21 pm
hi mark
have tried several attempts now at following the above, when i go to boot the aspire up nothing happens, last time it simply said boot error. I'm obviously doing something wrong but can not think what.
any suggestions greatly received,
kind regards and thanks, humble apologies for me taking so long to get round to trying this new os, been manic here of late
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 26, 2012, 12:31:23 pm
I'm a little lost .. What are you attempting to do ?

Install Peppermint ?

If so, how far do you get with the installation ? .. does the system boot to a working desktop from the LiveUSB stick (if you select "Try Peppermint") ?
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 02:32:09 pm
hi mark
when i boot the acer aspire by pressing f12 this is what comes up;
SYSLINUX 4.05 EDD 2011-12-09 copywright (c) 1994 2011 H. peter Anvin et al

any ideas whats happened, just went through all the stages once more and same thing comes up after pressing f12 button
cheers, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 02:37:06 pm
Tried to put into my windows machine and open the pen drive, it does not auto run so not sure how to check the files on there mark
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 26, 2012, 02:40:06 pm
OK, so you never got as far as installing Peppermint ?

This is a message from the LiveUSB saying it cannot boot .. you can try a different application to create the LiveUSB .. or use a different USB stick.

If you search the forum (for "SYSLINUX") you'll see Peppermint doesn't like certain USB sticks .. though *sometimes* people have been able to create a working LiveUSB using a different LiveUSB creator.

I'm sure that was in the Peppermint tutorial ?

Would I be right in assuming when you hit F12, the USB stick is listed as a USB FDD (floppy disk drive) and not a USB HDD (hard disk drive) ?
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
hi mark
i never looked at the tutorial, ok, i will order another usb from ebay to see if it makes a difference. in the mean time my acer has upgraded itself to firefox 8!!, any chance you can direct me to a link on how to revert back to 7? i have tried the search but only seems to display the link for upgrading from 2,3,4,5,6,. i need to downgrade from 8. i found it before but its escaped me now.
many thanks, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 02:56:12 pm
yea just popped it back in mark, its second in menue, says fdd
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 26, 2012, 03:15:37 pm
Follow the instructions here:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=9707.0 (http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=9707.0)

use the second wget command .. and skip the chown command.

That will move you back to Firefox 7 :)

Any problems .. post them in that topic.



Try a different USB creating application before ordering a new USB stick .. if you DO need to get a new one, get a large(ish) one (4GB+).
Mine's a Maxell 8GB retractable (but I can't spot the same one for sale anymore), goodallrounder suggested in this posting:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=9782.msg70872#msg70872 (http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=9782.msg70872#msg70872)
that the Sandisk Cruzer 4GB worked for him. (but the Cruzer is a U3 stick, personally I'd steer clear of U3 sticks).

I've also sucessfully used one of these:
http://www.ebuyer.com/223410-extra-value-8gb-usb-flash-drive-ev-usb8gb (http://www.ebuyer.com/223410-extra-value-8gb-usb-flash-drive-ev-usb8gb)
but I cannot guarantee when you buy one of ebuyers "extra value" USB sticks, they always post the same stick .. I think they change in a kind of "whatever they have at the time" kinda way.

It would be better if you could borrow one, as there are no guarantees the new one will work.

Things to try with your current USB stick -

Depending on its size .. try formatting the USB stick as FAT(16) in Windows before creating the LiveUSB .. or if it's above 4GB, try formatting it as FAT32 in Windows first.

Try another LiveUSB creating application .. there are a few in the Tutorial .. some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/home (http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/home)



Can I ask what make and size USB stick you are currently trying ?
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 26, 2012, 06:16:22 pm
hi mark
just tried lili usb creator with no joy, i guess thats that for now then. Having problems connecting to my bt home hub too last couple of days, rang bt and they said its common fault with netbooks running linux!! sounds a liitle far fetched as not had problems up to now! Don't know if anyone has experienced the same, and if so what did they do?
very frustrated right now so hope there is light at end of the tunnel,
cheers, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 26, 2012, 06:41:41 pm
That's a complete load of rubbish .. but Linpus Lite does occasionally get confused by multiple saved wireless configurations .. you could try deleting ALL wireless configurations (from the network manager), then setting up your wireless again.

When you say "had trouble connecting" .. what does that mean ? .. intermittent drop outs of an active connection, or won't connect at all ?

Or see here how to clear ALL network configs from the command line:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=4162.msg29852#msg29852 (http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=4162.msg29852#msg29852)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 27, 2012, 08:37:45 am
That's a complete load of rubbish .. but Linpus Lite does occasionally get confused by multiple saved wireless configurations .. you could try deleting ALL wireless configurations (from the network manager), then setting up your wireless again.

When you say "had trouble connecting" .. what does that mean ? .. intermittent drop outs of an active connection, or won't connect at all ?

Or see here how to clear ALL network configs from the command line:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=4162.msg29852#msg29852 (http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=4162.msg29852#msg29852)
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occasionally it connects to the homehub, right now im using the free openzone to type this. i have fired off a complaint email to bt . usually though it wont connect. only happened since friday, it did this once before and im sure an advisor helped me through it.
i will try the above steps u have kindly offered me.
many thanks,
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 27, 2012, 04:17:28 pm
Bt have called me to say homehub does not support linux, total tosh, been using it fine for months!! worse still, been using the free open zone and unable to get firefox, just comes up with crash reporter. maybe i did something wrong when trying to re-install firefox 7 from 8? having to use my much slower windows laptop at the mo, lol, most inconvenient, linux much faster at loading!!
so, not having the best of times at the mo
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 07:18:24 am
hi mark
think the problem is the netbook is not reading the encryption, it says waiting for network key, then comes up saying not connected. Also when i am able to get onto the free openzone on the acer, unable to use firefox. when i click the browser icon it comes up with the crash report. would great appreciate any suggestions you can offer, no matter how small, as bt are useless and my only avenue left is this forum. i did try deleting everything from the network manager as you said , when i put details of the homehub back on and clicked connect, it worked. turned off netbook and it wouldnt connect on start up again.
many thanks
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 09:16:13 am
I think the network problems are actually kernel related if I'm honest. The kernel was updated like last week, and since then I've been experiencing the same problems as well. I'm having to to disconnect it when it's connecting, then reconnect it to actually connect. It'll ask me to provide a keychain password for the network profile, even though I set one last time, kinda annoying but it only ever happens when I switch the lappy off, and then on or disconnect from the router. I'm with Sky and they aren't much better if I'm honest.

Try going over the instruction for installing FF7 again. Read them very carefully.

P.S. Don't let any ISP tell you they don't support Linux, it's total BS.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 09:54:03 am
I think the network problems are actually kernel related if I'm honest. The kernel was updated like last week, and since then I've been experiencing the same problems as well. I'm having to to disconnect it when it's connecting, then reconnect it to actually connect. It'll ask me to provide a keychain password for the network profile, even though I set one last time, kinda annoying but it only ever happens when I switch the lappy off, and then on or disconnect from the router. I'm with Sky and they aren't much better if I'm honest.

Try going over the instruction for installing FF7 again. Read them very carefully.

P.S. Don't let any ISP tell you they don't support Linux, it's total BS.
thanks bks, so any tips on what to do with my netbook? it can see the homehub but wont connect. forgive my ignorance but whats a kernel? incase bt get in touch again
thanks, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 11:29:45 am
Think of a kernel as a bridge. It connects the software with the hardware. I.E. Lipnus Lite/Ubuntu with your PC/Laptop/Netbook etc. Linux is the name of the kernel itself, not the actual OS. That's why people sometimes get confused.

I'd recommend trying an older keernel if you've updated in the last few weeks. When you start up your netbook, hold down "esc" and it should bring you to the bootloader''s screen. You'll be presented with a list of options. My memory gets a big foggy here but, there is an option that says something like "use older kernel" or similar. Hit enter on that option then select one of the older kernel and it'll boot into the desktop like normal. If your netbook works and connects to the hub fine, it'll be just an issue with the kernel.

[EDIT] - Oh and just before I forget, I remember last year I tried to update to kernel 2.39.4 or something like that and it broke my network manager wouldn't connect at all, so I had to revert to an older kernel, so this could possibly be a kernel issue.


If you want to know which version your on atm, type in a terminal:

Code: [Select]
uname -a


It'll output something like this:

Linux bally-laptop 2.6.38.8 #2 SMP Tue Sep 6 10:59:46 CEST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


The bit in bold is your kernel.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 12:44:12 pm
Linpus Lite is HIGHLY unlikely to have received a kernel update .. it's been out of development for years now.

Have you tried turning encryption off on the router .. if it then connects, try WEP instead of WPA(2).
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 01:21:08 pm
Linpus Lite is HIGHLY unlikely to have received a kernel update .. it's been out of development for years now.

Have you tried turning encryption off on the router .. if it then connects, try WEP instead of WPA(2).
not too familiar with how to do that on the homehub mark. slightly better news is i have managed to download pepperment 2 to a micro sd and with a card reader will load onto my system. i would like to go ahead and install it but it says i will lose all photos etc off the os it is replacing, tried to transfer them to a usb stick but they would not transfer across. i have a 120gb or something drive on this acer, do i need to delete the old system or can it stay in the background and so keeping old files etc?
thanks again, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 01:25:45 pm
thanks bks
i am tempted to just go over to pepperment os and start again, that might sort the whole thing out. i'm primed and ready just need a couple of questions answered them i'm set.
many thanks
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 01:29:38 pm
Hmm .. I've never tried dual-booting Linpus Lite and Peppermint.

I'd reckon it *could* be done, but it would be a LOT more work than just copying your stuff off to an external drive.

Even if you DO decide on the dual-boot route, you'de STILL be strongly advised to backup your stuff to an external drive .. setting up a dual-booter will entail resizing partitions, and ANY partition manipulation carries a risk of data corruption.

What was the problem you had backing up ?
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 02:47:43 pm
hi mark
it just would not transfer my files across to a pendrive, might be a dodgy usb i'm using. ok, i dont mind losing what little data i have on my linux os so maybe i should go straight to install? it says for best install need internet connection, is that crucial or does that come later? the new pepperment distro does look kind of cool and i have nothing to lose with going right to it. i guess it should connect to the homehub easier too
cheers, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 02:57:03 pm
Internet connection is not crucial .. it just gets the updates DURING the install, but you can always get them afterwards.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 03:23:44 pm
Internet connection is not crucial .. it just gets the updates DURING the install, but you can always get them afterwards.
thanks mark, i shall go ahead with it then, i will try to follow your totorial on my windows machine while i'm doing it, many thanks, here goes.....
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 03:47:41 pm
Let me know if the installing from the SD card reader works, because I have x2 1GB SD cards and an SD card reader and you may have saved me a lot of hassle since the burning to CD option never worked for me and I'd like to try out peppermint. :(
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 03:54:01 pm
Let me know if the installing from the SD card reader works, because I have x2 1GB SD cards and an SD card reader and you may have saved me a lot of hassle since the burning to CD option never worked for me and I'd like to try out peppermint. :(
will do bks, just gonna do it right this minute, with luck will be back on to tell u
john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 03:55:04 pm
Good luck! :D
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 04:40:36 pm
Let me know if the installing from the SD card reader works, because I have x2 1GB SD cards and an SD card reader and you may have saved me a lot of hassle since the burning to CD option never worked for me and I'd like to try out peppermint. :(
will do bks, just gonna do it right this minute, with luck will be back on to tell u
john
well can confirm that it seems to load and work just fine from a micro-1gig-sd card in a card reader. not had much of a play with it right now but  just glad was able to get onto the net. might have to look again at the tutorial to see what else i can put on.
regards, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 04:57:31 pm
Are you running it as a persistent LiveUSB from the card, or have you installed it to the internal HDD/SSD ?
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 06:54:24 pm
Interesting. Thanks for confirming that for me.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 08:34:46 pm
Are you running it as a persistent LiveUSB from the card, or have you installed it to the internal HDD/SSD ?
hi mark, running it from internal hdd/ssd, it did give me the options to test it first though. went through tutorial, done everything bar the right hand card reader which i will do later. great tutorial mark, very easy to follow. as a matter of interest, is the  desktop meant to be empty, with the menu bar in bottom left to access any programmes? or did i miss something in the set up? also is there a tutorial for printer drivers etc?
once again thanks for all the guidance
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 08:36:40 pm
Interesting. Thanks for confirming that for me.
your welcome BKS
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 08:37:33 pm
I'd imagine because the ISO is only something short of 500MB that there aren't many apps that come with the installation. Part of keeping it lightweight me thinks. Although I amn't for certain until I test it myself.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 08:43:39 pm
Yep, it's a "Cloud" distro .. so most apps are run from the internet, such as gmail, google-docs etc .. but they run in their own window.

There's nothing to stop you installing the full blown apps to the HDD though, such as LibeOffice, Thunderbird, etc. .. as it uses the Ubuntu repos.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 09:06:49 pm
OK, on your Windows PC, download the PeppermintOS (two) ISO image from here:
http://peppermintos.info/dl2/Peppermint-Two-i386-06052011.iso ([url]http://http://peppermintos.info/dl2/Peppermint-Two-i386-06052011.iso[/url])
or see here:
http://peppermintos.com/download/ ([url]http://http://peppermintos.com/download/[/url])

Once you've got the ISO image .. download Universal USB Installer from here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.9.exe ([url]http://http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.9.exe[/url])
or see here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ ([url]http://http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/[/url])

Start Universal USB Installer, and at ..

Step 1 .. In the drop down list, select PeppermintOS (Two)
Step 2  .. point it at the ISO image you downloaded
Step 3 .. Choose your (already plugged in >= 4GB) USB stick .. probably best to let it format it too, so backup its contents first.
Step 4 .. Set the slider to at least a 2GB persistence file .. so you can save changes, like adding the printer driver, LibreOffice, Firefox, etc. to test.
(the persistence option *says* optional, but you NEED one)

Heres a pic of the Universal USB Creator interface

([url]http://http://linuxforums.org.uk/MGalleryItem.php?id=1510[/url])

Click Create .. and wait till it's done .. it will take a while, and *may* appear to have stopped .. but just wait till it says it's "Done" .. as in the following pic

Pic of Universal USB Installer .. Installing to USB Stick

([url]http://http://linuxforums.org.uk/MGalleryItem.php?id=1509[/url])

Once the LiveUSB has been created, click Close, plug it into your AA1, then turn ON your AA1 .. as soon as you see the first screen (Acer Empowering People), hit the F12 key to access the boot device selection screen .. and select the USB stick as the drive to boot from and hit Enter to boot.

When asked, select "Try Peppermint" NOT "Install Peppermint"

Be aware .. running from a USB stick will be quite a bit slower that running it from the internal SSD after installation, so don't draw any conclusions about speed at this point ;)

I *can* tell you that once installed, it takes about 15 - 20 seconds longer to boot than Linpus Lite .. but once booted it loads/runs applications just as quickly .. and has access to all the latest software.

Once you've got that going .. let me know ..  and I'll tell you how to install your printer drivers, and some other stuff such as LibreOffice, Firefox (rather than Chrome), Thunderbird (if you need it) .. and how to achieve things like auto login, and get the wireless to auto start every boot, etc.
mark, think i'm gonna need a helping hand with the printer driver, just bought an hp email printer so should work fine. is there a way of creating short cuts on the desktop? it doesnt drag and drop like windows i guess?
cheers, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 09:11:42 pm
Shortcuts to what ?

[EDIT]

If you mean add icons from the menu's .. it's in the Peppermint tutorial isn't it ?

just right-click a menu item and select "Add to Desktop"
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 28, 2012, 09:19:31 pm
Am I correct in thinking Peppermint 2 is based on Ubuntu 11.10? If so, I believe the option of creating "shortcuts" or more commonly known in the Linux world as "Launchers" was broken. You can still do it by terminal command though.

Code: [Select]
gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new

You'll most likely need to install the Gnome Panel dependencies though so:

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel


It's probably best if you wait for Mark to come in here. :P
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 28, 2012, 09:26:40 pm
Shortcuts to what ?

[EDIT]

If you mean add icons from the menu's .. it's in the Peppermint tutorial isn't it ?

just right-click a menu item and select "Add to Desktop"
if it is i guess i missed it, sorry if its been covered already, i'm right clicking chromium from the menu and it just opens a new page.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 28, 2012, 09:47:53 pm
RIGHT-click it in the menu .. then select "Add to desktop" :)

Not Left-click .. if you right-click it, you should see a drop menu with 2 options:-

Add to desktop
and
Properties

[EDIT]

OK, just in case you're clicking the wrong place.

Bottom left of your screen on the panel you'll see a Peppermint icon and the word "menu" .. click that, move your cursor up to "Internet", move your cursor across to "Chromium Web Browser", RIGHT-CLICK your mouse/trackpad, click "Add to desktop" .. there should now be a Chromium icon on the desktop.



[EDIT 2]

For your Kodak ESP 5250 (AIO) printer .. down lad ths file:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download)

then doube-click it .. when gdebi opens, click the "Install" button,

Once that's installed, go to menu>System Tools>Printing to set up your printer.

Just for information, the homepage of the c2esp driver is here:
http://cupsdriverkodak.sourceforge.net/ (http://cupsdriverkodak.sourceforge.net/)
and files (on sourceforge) here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/)

There is also a SANE backend there that may allow you to use the scanner.

It is also (after installing the above driver) possible to set up the printer through the CUPS interface by going to this address:
http://localhost:631 (http://localhost:631)
in your web browser.

then going to Administration>Add Printer

BTW, when your browser prompts for your username and password .. that's your Peppermint username and password.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 04:52:24 am
RIGHT-click it in the menu .. then select "Add to desktop" :)

Not Left-click .. if you right-click it, you should see a drop menu with 2 options:-

Add to desktop
and
Properties

[EDIT]

OK, just in case you're clicking the wrong place.

Bottom left of your screen on the panel you'll see a Peppermint icon and the word "menu" .. click that, move your cursor up to "Internet", move your cursor across to "Chromium Web Browser", RIGHT-CLICK your mouse/trackpad, click "Add to desktop" .. there should now be a Chromium icon on the desktop.



[EDIT 2]

For your Kodak ESP 5250 (AIO) printer .. down lad ths file:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download ([url]http://http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download[/url])

then doube-click it .. when gdebi opens, click the "Install" button,

Once that's installed, go to menu>System Tools>Printing to set up your printer.

Just for information, the homepage of the c2esp driver is here:
http://cupsdriverkodak.sourceforge.net/ ([url]http://http://cupsdriverkodak.sourceforge.net/[/url])
and files (on sourceforge) here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/ ([url]http://http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/[/url])

There is also a SANE backend there that may allow you to use the scanner.

It is also (after installing the above driver) possible to set up the printer through the CUPS interface by going to this address:
http://localhost:631 ([url]http://http://localhost:631[/url])
in your web browser.

then going to Administration>Add Printer

BTW, when your browser prompts for your username and password .. that's your Peppermint username and password.

yeah was clicking in wrong place, thanks mark, will try out the printer too
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 05:07:29 am
this may sound obvious but how do i change my peppermint installation to uk settings, seems during set up i hit us and not uk, the clock is 5 hours behind too,
thanks, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 05:15:53 am
when i click it in the menu its greyed out, with a padlock on click to make changes button
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 29, 2012, 05:28:32 am
The padlock is there so you don't change any settings by accident, just hit the padlock and change the time to UK settings, usually just enter your location and it'll do the work for you. The hit the padlock again and close the window. Done. :D
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 29, 2012, 11:39:06 am
I'm going to apologise before I say this but ..

when i click it in the menu its greyed out, with a padlock on click to make changes button

Didn't you take that as a hint .. click the padlock to make changes ;)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 07:47:23 pm
The padlock is there so you don't change any settings by accident, just hit the padlock and change the time to UK settings, usually just enter your location and it'll do the work for you. The hit the padlock again and close the window. Done. :D
thanks BKS, yeah i should have figured that one out.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 07:51:02 pm
I'm going to apologise before I say this but ..

when i click it in the menu its greyed out, with a padlock on click to make changes button

Didn't you take that as a hint .. click the padlock to make changes ;)
mark, its true, i'm not the sharpest when it comes to these sort of things. should have a go at more stuff but scared i will do some damage that will cause me problems
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on February 29, 2012, 08:30:52 pm
You won't progress unless you take risks. ::)

Just use a bit of common sense and read up on things before you do anything system-wise and always backup your backup. You can never be too sure. :P
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 29, 2012, 08:40:37 pm
Hey, screwing up your system, then fixing it, is the best way to learn .. and half the fun ;)

[EDIT]

And I wonder why people think I'm a bit of a geek :)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on February 29, 2012, 08:48:59 pm
You won't progress unless you take risks. ::)

Just use a bit of common sense and read up on things before you do anything system-wise and always backup your backup. You can never be too sure. :P
thats my problem really, have no idea how to back up files or anything basic really, normally just use the net, skype , email and jot the odd letter, for which i use my windows laptop. i have done well to take the plunge and change my whole os on here. i didnt have any luck trying to download the printer, it took me to a terminal and asked for a sudo command. not sure whether my newer hp 3050a all in one would be better suited anyway because its hpeprint?
cheers, john
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on February 29, 2012, 09:52:48 pm
The HP will no doubt be a LOT easier to set up .. but we can carry on with the Kodak if you want ?

Also be aware it will probably be MUCH easier to get the scanner working on the HP .. It may even be impossible with the Kodak.

So which printer do you want to use ?




If it's the Kodak ...

How far did you get with this:-

Quote
For your Kodak ESP 5250 (AIO) printer .. download ths file:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download ([url]http://http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download[/url])

then doube-click it .. when gdebi opens, click the "Install" button,

Once that's installed, go to menu>System Tools>Printing to set up your printer.


??
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 01, 2012, 07:39:02 am
The HP will no doubt be a LOT easier to set up .. but we can carry on with the Kodak if you want ?

Also be aware it will probably be MUCH easier to get the scanner working on the HP .. It may even be impossible with the Kodak.

So which printer do you want to use ?
Hi mark
i got as far as trying to set it up from my menu, it was asking for a url for the kodak, i entered its ip address thinking thats what it meant but the forward button remained greyed out.
i think the HP printer would be best as we leave it on all the time as it has an email address so can print from my blackberry, cool!
its a deskjet 3050 aio j611
hope thats enough info
many thanks once more
john




If it's the Kodak ...

How far did you get with this:-

Quote
For your Kodak ESP 5250 (AIO) printer .. download ths file:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download ([url]http://http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/latest/download[/url])

then doube-click it .. when gdebi opens, click the "Install" button,

Once that's installed, go to menu>System Tools>Printing to set up your printer.


??
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on March 01, 2012, 11:18:02 am
OK, HP it is then .. Is it going to be a wireless or USB connection ?

In either case, you'll want to install the hplip-gui package, so open a terminal and run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install hplip-gui

You'll then find a new menu item called HPLIP Toolbox .. see if your printer is automatically discovered by running that.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 01, 2012, 12:14:07 pm
OK, HP it is then .. Is it going to be a wireless or USB connection ?

In either case, you'll want to install the hplip-gui package, so open a terminal and run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install hplip-gui

You'll then find a new menu item called HPLIP Toolbox .. see if your printer is automatically discovered by running that.
hi mark, i want to run it wireless.
i ran the toolbox Application and plugged the usb into the printer and netbook, but it cant find it.
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 01, 2012, 12:27:02 pm
OK, HP it is then .. Is it going to be a wireless or USB connection ?

In either case, you'll want to install the hplip-gui package, so open a terminal and run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install hplip-gui

You'll then find a new menu item called HPLIP Toolbox .. see if your printer is automatically discovered by running that.
hi mark, i want to run it wireless.
i ran the toolbox Application and plugged the usb into the printer and netbook, but it cant find it.
hey, how about that, experimented like you and bks told me too and went on to try the cups install section of the file u got me to download, it printed a test page!!! gonna give it one last test............
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 01, 2012, 12:32:54 pm
mark,
thank  you so much, the printer works!!!! can not believe it!!
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) on March 01, 2012, 12:40:35 pm
Great .. you'll get nowhere unless you experiment, OK occasionally you'll mess things up, but you'll then learn a lot by finding fixes .. Oh and well done :)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: BkS on March 01, 2012, 12:48:10 pm
Well done, hopefully this achievement will make you more confident. :)
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 01, 2012, 05:42:33 pm
Great .. you'll get nowhere unless you experiment, OK occasionally you'll mess things up, but you'll then learn a lot by finding fixes .. Oh and well done :)
Thanks mark
I guess i had a little go because i knew you and others wouldn't be far away if i got into problems, i will still require help for even the most basic stuff because i'm not too confident on here as you know lol.
many thanks once again
Title: Re: kodak printer drivers on acer aspire one impus lite
Post by: john-i-am on March 02, 2012, 05:04:23 am
Well done, hopefully this achievement will make you more confident. :)
Thanks BKS, can't believe how much better the netbook is now to use! i will still require basic help though i think.
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