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Peppermint / Recover Thunderbird files (SOLVED)
« on: July 01, 2015, 11:24:11 am »
Sorry folks!
Quite simple really. I couldn't boot because the 8Gb was full.
Booting up from the USB stick I just deleted some files and it booted up as normal.
Now to work out what I really need to get rid of, and keep an eye on free disk space in future...


Below is what I originally sent, but may be of help to someone else (?)

Hi Mark

Long time no talk, but my AA1 running Peppermint 3 has just crashed and won't reboot (more about that later maybe, but once I have saved all my personal stuff I propose to just rebuild)

So I booted from the Peppermint distro by using the USB installer and a USB stick, and can recover the files I need - except for Thunderbird.

I used Ctrl + H to show the hidden files and found Thunderbird in home/[me]/.thunderbird but it won't let me in - the dreaded 'permission denied'

I tried logging in with my password but it won't take it. I searched the forum but couldn't find an answer.

Any suggestions gratefully received...

Oops! Didn't get a notification of that post.

Sorry, can't answer that Q at the moment

I Googled: linux cursor freeze
and I see I am not alone.

At the last freeze I pressed Ctrl and it immediately rebooted. I am beginning to wonder if both the cursor freeze and jump could be a keyboard problem?

Thanks Mark, but while you were preparing those instructions I had cursor freeze after freeze after freeze...

Running Thunderbird and Firefox, with 4-5 tabs on and opening sites - looking at my BT account, abebooks, amazon BBC News and other sites etc.

Firefox settings are still:
 browser.cache. disk.enable false
 browser.cache. memory.enable true

And to cap it all, restarting after the last freeze, Thunderbird brought in ALL my emails from the server again, but Remove Duplicates sorted that out.

I give up. Is my machine jinxed?

Can I upgrade to Peppermint 4 without losing all my emails and files?
And if so, have you done a tutorial on it? (among the millions of other things you manage to fit into your busy support life!)

Clever stuff. I will know next time.
No, there deosn't seem to be an option with Peppermint3
But why all the messing around when I have 1 and 2 sec delays?
I am back to 3 secs


Still no cursor freeze since reloading as per your instructions despite running Thunderbird, Firefox and transcribing madly into gedit (Yippee!)

HOWEVER my understanding of cursor leaping has progressed

1. With 1 sec touchpad delay the cursor leapt about all over the place even when typing slowly. Also the contents of my last copy were pasted, and sometimes great chunks of text were deleted.

2. Going to a 3 sec delay there were no errors despite manic typing and transcribing 5 mins of speech. However the 3 secs made moving the cusrsor a tad cumbersome

3. Going to a 2 sec delay seemed to work OK, but then all of a sudden the Thunderbird and gedit icons disappeared from the bottom line of the screen. Opening gedit and the file I was editing I got the message that the file was already open in another gedit window - but I couldn't locate it or access it! Thunderbird I could not open. Task Manager showed gedit and Thunderbird present but not running. I couldn't find out how to get them running, but I did kill them and restart, but lost the gedit text I had enetered since the last save :-(

Does the above offer any clues?

Hi Mark

Sorry about the silence, but not been able to get online until today.
- the wires fell out of BT's junction box up the pole near our house (Yes!)
- only rewired six months ago!

Very hard to tell if touchpad stops working. I guess I am just going to have to slow down in my old age

But no more cursor freezes since that last big patch, so here's hoping!

Thanks again for all your help

Spoke too soon!
My manic typing has brought up the cursor jump problem again.
- going all over the place!
Do I need to put that patch in again?

What was all that? - quite a screenful of mods.
Did I get a bad mix of drivers previously?
Anyway - done. Will let you know either way after a few days (hopefully nbot before!)
Thanks again for all your help

Hi Mark
As requested...

[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep input
ii  inputattach                          1:1.4.2-1                               utility to connect serial-attached peripherals to the input subsystem
ii  mintinput                            2.0+peppermint1                         Keyboard and Mouse settings app for Mint Fluxbox and LXDE.
ii  xinput                                            Runtime configuration and test of XInput devices
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all               1:7.6+12ubuntu2                         X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev             1:2.7.0-0ubuntu1.2                      X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-mouse             1:1.7.1-1build3                         X.Org X server -- mouse input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics         1.6.2-1ubuntu1~precise2                 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse           1:12.9.0-0ubuntu0.1                     X.Org X server -- VMMouse input driver to use with VMWare
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom             1:0.14.0-0ubuntu2.1                     X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver

Found a way to unfreeze the cursor...

'Switch user'
and log in as self again (both for OS and screen saver)

- quicker than rebooting, and ALL the programs remain as they are!

Just caught me as I was trying to get an early night...

Mainly running on battery.
I notice Chromium keeps putting up 'waiting for cache' messages
Here is your data...
Thunderbird + Chromium + 4 tabs

[email protected] ~ $ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:           483        469         14          0         15        197
-/+ buffers/cache:        257        226
Swap:          497          0        497

[email protected] ~ $ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[sudo] password for david:

 Timing cached reads:   1102 MB in  2.00 seconds = 551.14 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  98 MB in  3.05 seconds =  32.13 MB/sec

[email protected] ~ $ cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness


I was doing really well...

Thunderbird + Chromium, four tabs open, tracking down this GCHQ stuff on the Guardian website.
The disk got busy occasionally and the cursor froze temporarily (and oops - it just jumped while I was typing that line)
Once or twice Chromium said a page was not responding, but shortly afterwards all seemed OK.
THEN the cursor froze solid. Disk light on full. I think it went out, but the cursor froze solid.

Then two funnies...
1. I hit Esc and Chromium bombed out but the cursor still froze.
2. That put me back into Thunderbird, but the cursor still frozen, so I hit cursor down and Thunderbird bombed out. The cursor became moveable again and I was invited to log in and all was back to 'normal'

Afraid I am out all day tomorrow, so won't be able to respond


Thank you so much for all you have done (hopefully) getting to the bottom of this one!
And yes, that posting answers all my Qs

Now just a matter of wait and see...

Sorry it has taken up so much of your time.

I am just surprised no one else has had similar problems.

I am assuming I was supposed to answer 'Y' to the Y/n options
Here is the result, but can you give me a clue as to what is going on?

[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic         3.2.0-23.36                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic         3.2.0-48.74                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
ii  linux-image-generic                                     Generic Linux kernel image
[email protected] ~ $ uname -a
Linux david-AOA110 3.2.0-48-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


After the upgrade command it said:

The following packages have been kept back:
  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic

It also said the following, which is odd as the little shield icon says my system is up to date...

The following packages will be upgraded:
  dbus dbus-x11 libdbus-1-3 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa
  libglu1-mesa libpython2.7 libxatracker1 python python-minimal python2.7
  python2.7-minimal xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 10.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 8,192 B disk space will be freed.

I didn't go ahead with it

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