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1351
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 08:48:18 pm »
Of course!!    Just failed to see it, that's all!   :-[


1352
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 07:50:21 pm »
I think that's correct - all I remember doing (at Mark's suggestion) was to select "Without Effects" at the bottom of the screen before logging in and it has done that automatically ever since.
Still trying to upload an image. Might need some help with that too, if I keep failing!

1353
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 07:19:07 pm »
That's right - absolutely nothing like yours!   --->
I tried this:
img/home/keith/Desktop/Link to screenshot.jpg/img    with square brackets around the "img" and "/img"
but there is no image when I upload the post.  Any ideas?

Perhaps it's relevant that I have to run Ubuntu "without effects" to avoid display problems.


1354
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 05:54:17 pm »
Definitely no search box!  But the terminal method worked OK  ->  and Thunderbird was the only Email client listed.
My initial query was simply to be able to start up Thunderbird by clicking the envelope icon, but as you indicate that Evolution is very integrated into Ubuntu, that could explain it all.  And selecting T/B from the applications is no real hardship.  Roll on V11.10. 

Thanks as usual for your help. .... and I have more questions on other topics later!

Keith

1355
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 04:24:24 pm »
Clicking on the Lens/Applications symbol does not list "Preferred Applications".

In the Ubuntu Software Centre: if I click on the Thunderbird icon there is a list of options including "support for Gnome in Mozilla Thunderbird".  Ticking this option has no effect and the tick has gone when I return to the list later. 

Clicking "system/preferences/Email settings" results in an error:  "Could not launch Email settings.  Failed to execute child process 'Evolution Settings' (no such file)" which is because I had un-installed Evolution.  Bad move?

Clicking Start/System settings lists lots of things that can be configured but there is no response to clicking "Email settings", although clicking other icons does indeed provide "Preferred Applications" choice. 

I am presuming that the envelope icon (top right of screen) launches the default email client.
By the way:  what client do you prefer?

1356
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2011, 02:53:16 pm »
...and whilst we're on the subject of Thunderbird....  I have two niggles that someone might have solved already but I haven't found on the forum:
1.  How do I make Thunderbird the default client?  I have set the preferences for T/B to check upon startup if it is the default Email client.
2.  More tricky.  When receiving spam/scams/phishing I always forward the headers to the mail-abuse address of the first listed ISP and also to [email protected], but unlike Outlook Express, I can't select and copy the whole header list, only individual lines, and even then without the title of the line. 
Any ideas?

Many thanks, as usual.
   Keith

1357
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 12, 2011, 06:34:56 pm »
Thanks to Mark, Thunderbird is now working with BTinterent.com on Ubuntu.  I list below the settings I am using:

Thunderbird Account Settings

Main Page
Account name:           your.name@btinternet.com
Your name:      Your Name
Email address:           your.name@btinternet.com

Incoming Server Settings
Server type:      POP Mail Server
Server name:      mail.btinternet.com
Port:            110
User name:      your.name
Connection security:   None
Authentication method:   Password transmitted insecurely

Outgoing Server Settings
Server name:         mail.btinternet.com
Port:                    465
Connection security:   SSL/TLS
Authentication method:   Normal password
Username:         your.name

Note:  Setting the outgoing port to 465 produces a warning but just accept it. 

1358
Internet Connectivity / Re: Thunderbird
« on: September 12, 2011, 04:37:15 pm »
Mark,
Thanks for your assistance once again.
The default incoming server name was "pop.mail.btinternet.com" I deleted the pop bit but there is nowhere else to specify the type.
Similarly: outgoing server was "smtp.mail,btinternet.com" and I deleted the smtp without being able to specify it elsewhere.
Adding the "btinternet.com" to the username had the effect of adding it also the the default (bt/Yahoo) junk folder address!  i.e. "my_username@[email protected]" which makes it look as though the suffix is assumed (and it wasn't needed when Thunderbird worked in XP).
the Authentication box does not list SMTP so I opted for the default "normal password".
.....and despite hacking all the variables, It still doesn't work.
Using the Evolution parameters (which works OK) don't work either.

Keith

1359
Internet Connectivity / Thunderbird
« on: September 12, 2011, 01:37:59 pm »
Dear Forum,
Having had wonderful help from the Forum when installing Ubuntu, I would be grateful for help with a long-standing problem with Thunderbird. 
When using it on XP it was fine until I upgraded it and suddenly I could send but not receive Emails.  Now using Ubuntu, I have tried but can't get on with Evolution so installed Thunderbird in the hope that it would be compatible with Ubuntu.
Sadly not - the same error message occurs:   Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: Incorrect username or password.
I have checked all the settings, of course, to no avail. 
This is beginning to look like a BT/Yahoo problem, but I would be grateful for advice from anyone with similar experience. 
Many thanks.
    Keith

1360
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 16, 2011, 05:11:23 pm »
Mark,
Thank you for the references - I've spent a large part of the day on Wikipaedia until my eyes were smarting.  The links were very interesting and helped to put many things in context. 
Although I am sure there will be many improvements to the core of Ubuntu, I doubt that I will be able to take advantage of them as I am  not experienced enough as a hacker (in the nicest sense of the word).  The "eye candy" improvements leave me cold as I'm more interested in function than form.  Still: the developers who give so much of their time deserve some relaxation and job satisfaction. 
So my next task is to get a new graphics card in anticipation of 11.10.
I think this thread is finished as we've digressed a bit, but I will always welcome general comments that you think might help my background knowledge (say by the message system) as they occur to you.
Many thanks again.
   Keith

1361
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 15, 2011, 06:55:15 pm »
BkS & Mark,
If "effects" means just fancy visual effects with no practical value, then I can do without them.  I presume Unity is the desktop appearance - which is fine for now.  So I shall not tempt fate by delving too deeply until I 've had a bit more experience, and postpone the GRUB experiment until another day.  By the way: what is GRUB?  Come to that; what's the kernel?  (core of the operating system?)
The new graphic card idea is a good one.  I have a tower system and a screwdriver.  I looked on the nVidia website, and the GeForce210 seemed like the most appropriate as I don't edit videos or use games. 
I am very grateful to you for your advice and assistance.  I now have a system that I can work with - and find things with which to pester you again!   :)
Regards,
   Keith

1362
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 15, 2011, 09:57:38 am »
Sorry for the delay - I had a day off. 
I followed the post you referred to, but the" Ubuntu + five dots" screen appears immediately after the BIOS POST.  There is definitely no intermediate screen/image visible. 
I tried permanently pressing the shift key anyway, between POST and Ubuntu screens, but there was no response.
As before, upon booting, the "no effects" option is selected by default, and I'm happy to keep the options bar at the bottom of the screen at log-on, so I'm not sure that I need any further fixes - unless I'm likely to experience a problem.  What is your advice?
Having successfully entered Ubuntu and played around, I am very happy with what I have, and have found only one problem so far:  I can send emails but not receive them - but that is a question for another thread, I think.
If you feel that I might need to take further action then I would be very grateful for your advice, as usual.  If not, then I thank you once more for your very generous assistance.  You're a star. 
Best regards,
  Keith

1363
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 13, 2011, 11:18:42 pm »
When rebooting, it  selected "No effects" automatically, so no real problem, I guess.  Here is the card info anyway:

[email protected]:~$ Code: [Select]
Code:: command not found
[email protected]:~$ sudo lshw -C display
[sudo] password for keith:
  *-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 2
       bus info: [email protected]:00:02.0
       version: 02
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
       resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f7ffffff memory:ff280000-ff2fffff ioport:ec00(size=8)
[email protected]:~$

1364
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 13, 2011, 10:40:17 pm »
Mark - You're a genius!  The "No Effects" option works perfectly.   :)
Very many thanks for your help.

Best wishes,
    Keith

1365
Linux Support / Re: Lubuntu installation
« on: August 13, 2011, 09:21:01 pm »
Back home after a few days away. 
Whilst away I left the PC with my local PC repair shop to try.  They failed, too, but installed Ubuntu (not Lubuntu) apparently succesfully until I booted it up, when the screen image became unstable.  So I opted for XP Pro to be installed but took the Ubuntu disc with me.
Back home I tried installing Ubuntu on my own PC with the same result - very unstable with missing icons.
By now I had received the 700MB ISO file and downloaded MD5 to check it. But there is a file association choice - I opted to keep the current one at which I was asked to select the root folder.  At this point I have given up as my knowledge is too meagre to understand what is going on. 

Next step was to "check the media for defects" as you suggested, and followed your forum post #msg40492. The small icon that was supposed to appear before I should start pressing the space bar did not appear so I rebooted and pressed it anyway - still no joy.
Now I was in hacking mode and selected "Repair broken packages".  208MB later(!) I rebooted in Recovery Mode(?) which told me it couldn't use the display and did I want to manually reconfigure: but there was no response to the OK button & I had to reboot.
I soon found myself in command mode reminding me of my Unix days but the only commands I could remember were "ls" & "cd".

For people following this thread I think the message is: When installing modern s/w, first make sure that your h/w is modern, too! 
Rather than waste your generous time any more, I shall have to start from basics and get a book on the subject - can anyone recommend one?
My sincere thanks to Mark for your time and advice - sorry I couldn't take advantage of it.   :-[

Regards,
    Keith

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