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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 18, 2014, 08:05:23 pm »
Oh dear!!  What have I started?

Seriously, thanks to all for your input on this.  I've taken Mark's advice (thank you Mark) and removed Mintupdate and replaced it with update-manager on my pc. 

At the moment it is sitting in the taskbar showing as a gear-wheel with a green arrow on it.  Does this icon change character when updates are available, or is it a 'manual' updater that will only work if you click it? 

Either way, I can simply add this to my pal's lappy and simply instruct him to give it a spin every week or so.  I'm sure that in very quick order he will have got the hang of Mint and will soon be delving into the underbelly...................... ;D

'Til the next time..........

Rich

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 14, 2014, 06:23:14 pm »
It's seems like a KDE issue (mintupdate being gtk I think) .. but it obviously only applies to some systems

Trying to find out more now .. there's bits and bobs about it on the Mint forum, but it appears to be that rare that nobody's found out the root cause yet.

Thanks everyone for your help on this.  I have a week or two's grace before I hand the lappy back so will try and 'break' it a few times to see how it responds!  If no solution can be found before then, I'll have to introduce him to the delights of the terminal a little earlier than planned............. ;)

Rich

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 13, 2014, 04:31:59 pm »
Wonder if this is some issue with KDE - have you seen any KDE updates come through recently?

Possibly so.  I don't really watch closely - I just tend to click and go and let it do its thing!  Incidentally, as an addition to the reply above to Mark, I just ran mintupdate in terminal on my pc and got the same message!  However, the password box opened ok and the update manager followed and updated as normal.  Taskbar icon works fine on pc, also.
Rich

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 13, 2014, 04:25:22 pm »
Do you still get this error if you try starting it from the terminal ?

Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.

Yes - as per

mintupdate
[email protected] ~ $ QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory
QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/xxxxx/.config/ibus/bus
mintUpdate.py: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 13, 2014, 12:15:35 pm »
This is really bizarre - try:
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sudo apt-get install --reinstall mintupdate

Updated - v 4.4.7 installed.  No change...........as you say, bizarre!

 




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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 13, 2014, 10:40:32 am »
Before doing anything else, make sure you have an active internet connection, then run a full systgem update from the command line:
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sudo apt-get update
then
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sudo apt-get upgrade

When done .. REBOOT.

Did that fix it ?



If not, I doubt if this will work, but worth a shot...

Go to -

Mint Logo > System Settings > System Administration >. Startup & Shutdown > Autostart

Select "Add Program"

make the entry read

Desktop File: Update Manager
Command: mintupdate
Status: (checked) enabled startup

Then log off/on again

Source:
http://http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=152474


Hi - update/upgrade had no effect - system shows as up to date.  2nd method enabled icon in taskbar on startup (password box also opened automatically) but still disappeared when clicked (no effect when password entered  - no updates screen)

Rich

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 12, 2014, 10:17:01 pm »
What's the output from:
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sudo lshw -C display

Hi Mark - now logged in via the lappy so should make things easier!

Output
sudo lshw -C display
[sudo] password for xxxx:
  *-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: RV380/M24C [Mobility Radeon X600 SE]
       vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
       physical id: 0
       bus info: [email protected]:01:00.0
       version: 00
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
       resources: irq:43 memory:c8000000-cfffffff ioport:3000(size=256) memory:b8100000-b810ffff memory:b8120000-b813ffff

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Linux Support / Re: Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 12, 2014, 08:22:50 pm »
Have you tried to run mintupdate from the terminal? It might give some indication of where it fails.
You could also try to reinstall MintUpdate from the Synaptic Package Manager.

Thanks for the reply.   

Now this is getting weird!  No sign of the taskbar icon on either pc or lappy on boot up this time .  Ran mintupdate on both - pc returned this -

QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory
QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/xxxxxxx/.config/ibus/bus

but the password box appeared, opened and updated as normal!  Ticked icon reappeared in taskbar.

Lappy gave identical output (except name in string) password box appeared, disappeared, no update and added this line to bash -

Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.         (Got to type lappy output into here manually)

Any thoughts?

Rich





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Linux Support / Yet more update manager woes!
« on: February 12, 2014, 02:46:35 pm »
Hi - I'm running Mint 13kde on my pc and am in the process of setting the same up on a friend's Toshiba lappy - (ex-XP).  I'm attempting to replicate my setup - as near as possible - as he is a complete beginner with Linux so if he hits a snag I should be able to walk him through the processes a little bit easier.

On my rig the update manager appears in the taskbar and is working normally i.e. shows blue when updates are available, green tick when up to date.  Clicking on the icon opens the manager screen ok.  On the lappy, the icon sometimes appears on startup (not every time) and when clicked, opens the password box.  Everything then disappears and the manager box fails to open.  I can run updates from the command line on both machines, no problem.

How can I fix this?   1/ where can I find the info in my pc referring to the config of the update manager?
                             2/ what do I do to replicate this in the lappy's config?

It's not too much of an issue for me but he is a long-time Windows user who hadn't even heard of Linux a month ago so needs his pointy/clicky things!  (I'm trying to persuade him to the dark side (or should that be 'into the light'?)....................................... ;D)

Thanks in advance

Rich

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Linux Support / Re: The problem with Linux
« on: February 09, 2014, 11:46:04 am »
I believe the issue is one of perception. 

"Windows is easy because it works straight away" versus "Linux is hard because you have to install it and mess about to get it working"

In the non-technical computing world, your average user (ie most of us - worldwide) has never had to install Windows from scratch because we buy OEM versions! We never see the hoops that have to be jumped through to get it working correctly because a tech in a factory somewhere has done it for us!  And that tech is not interested in giving us the lowdown because he knows a whole industry has been built on us not knowing!  If things go wrong, Mr Average hasn't got a clue how to fix it so has to rely on support (cost) or upgrade (even greater cost).

With Linux, Mr Average now has a disk in his hand - possibly for the first time ever.  If he hits a snag, it's because "Linux is c**p" and won't load/ do what he expects. It never crosses his mind that Windows is probably "c**ppier" and is even harder to install.........!  He has nothing to compare it with, all he feels is frustration that this so-called o/s won't do what he wants.  If he just raises his eyes, uses our old friend 'google' he'll see that there is (literally) a world of help out there populated by people who will help, just because they can and with no other motive than that.  (Windows forums users are wonderful too, it's just that they work with one hand tied behind their backs - they don't have access to the code)

I choose Linux because I like to have control.  Simple as that.  The fact that I save (a lot!) of money, have far fewer computing headaches, can decide where, when and how I use my system and not to be driven down a route I have no wish to take is merely a happy by-product. 

I run Mint 13KDE at the moment and am more than happy with it. I'm no expert, just Mr Average.  But what my Linux experience has done for me has got me interested in a fascinating subject that I'm keen to explore. A lightbulb moment! 

Best wishes to everyone on this excellent forum - keep up the good work.  ;)

Rich

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Linux Support / Re: There is something wrong with my computer!
« on: February 06, 2014, 04:40:16 pm »
OK, that confused me  :o .. I don't remember having said that, but hey memory like a sieve these days ;)

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Linux Support / Re: There is something wrong with my computer!
« on: February 05, 2014, 09:40:31 am »
How does that get added? At a PC shop?

Try googling 'adding memory to HP NX6325' and scan through the results.  Crucial's page will tell you the type of memory you require so you can compare exact specs online for best prices.

There's a Youtube video on how to DIY it - if you're not confident to try it yourself, perhaps a friend/colleague might help out?  ;)

hope this helps

Rich

Oops!  Apologies Mark - duplicated your post - missed reading the page it was on!  ::)

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Linux Support / Re: There is something wrong with my computer!
« on: February 04, 2014, 05:41:11 pm »
How does that get added? At a PC shop?

Try googling 'adding memory to HP NX6325' and scan through the results.  Crucial's page will tell you the type of memory you require so you can compare exact specs online for best prices.

There's a Youtube video on how to DIY it - if you're not confident to try it yourself, perhaps a friend/colleague might help out?  ;)

hope this helps

Rich

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General Discussion / Re: Howdy folks . . . . .
« on: January 31, 2014, 09:51:42 am »
Hi and welcome - from an even less sunny Bolton!!!

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General Discussion / Re: Did I mention how much I hate Win8 ?
« on: January 22, 2014, 04:14:26 pm »
I only went from 98 to Vista and that was enough for me!   ;D

Now busy with Mint 13KDE (and doing my best to persuade others...............)  ;)

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