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Chromebook booth in PC World
« on: April 27, 2012, 10:26:46 pm »
This might be old news for some (OK most people here) but I was pleasantly surprised
the other day when ventured into the PC World near Birmingham.
First off there is a big sign outside pointing out the availability of the Chromebooks inside.
Then the second surprise was when I came across the Google booth with probably a dozen of Chromebooks set up and running.

Although there was no sign anywhere which would be linking the Chrome OS to linux, but to the credit of the staff there,
they were quick to point out its relationship to it and at the same time managed to
describe it in the context of being secure and not requiring a virus checker.

According to the them they were set up in November and had quite a good turnover since then.
Judging that while I was there this booth had more interested people than the MAC and the Windows section did.

Whilst I cannot see the point of the Chromebook (not interested in the cloud) the actual machines were rather good,
for the price (cheapest selling for £279.00).
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/chromebook-1460-commercial.html
http://www.google.co.uk/chromebook/features.html

Oh, and apparently you can install Ubuntu as dual boot.
http://www.devchronicles.com/2011/10/installing-ubuntu-on-samsung-series-5.html

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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2012, 11:05:35 pm »
Nope .. it was news to me they are on sale .. after initial interest when they were announced, I'd kind of forgotten about them (it obviously took them far too long from announcement --> market)  :o

I'll probably nip down to PCWorld when I get the chance, just out of interest.

BUT ..

From a quick Google (no pun intended), I see the spec is:- 12.1" Screen, Intel Atom N570 1.66GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, and 16GB flash storage.

That puts it dangerously close to the price of a cheap i3 based laptop .. which has a better spec
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More than a netbook with a similar spec.

When you consider the original UK pricing was "supposed" to be £349 for the Wifi model, and £399 for the 3G model .. retailers seem to be discounting them already which can't be good news for Google, but unless/until they discount them some more, it's not really good for the buyer either.

I'm somewhat surprised at the price point for what is effectively a Linux netbook, and which I would have expected Google to have heavily discounted (to the point of loss-leading), to peak market interest.

ChromeOS will live or die by how many machines they can get in houses .. they need to be cheaper than anything else (Like the Acer Aspire One was, when it became an ideal christmas present), otherwise people will stick with what they know, Windows.

Although from reading peoples opinions of Windows 8 .. Microsoft just may be doing Google/ChromeOS (and Linux) a big favour soon ;)
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 11:27:09 pm »
Yeah, the spec is not fantastic, but performance wise it felt right.
As I have not had much time to spend there perhaps did not test it enough.
But my main point is that it was surprising to see it there and that the staff were
both knowledgeable and they discussed the linux aspect freely (without being embarrassed by it)
Which is a stark contrast to when they (PC World) brought the linux netbooks out.

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I'll probably nip down to PCWorld when I get the chance, just out of interest.

You might want to check for the Chrome Zone before you set off, as there appears to be only four outlets in the UK.

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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 11:34:56 pm »
Thanks for that .. PCWorld is 20+ miles from here, so you may have saved me some wasted time :)

Though it's nice to see them not being "ashamed" of Linux .. and I get your point about the contrast with early netbooks .. I'd still expect their "knowledge" of Linux to have been a half hour "sales pitch" lesson .. we are talking about PCWorld ;)

It remains to be seen if ChromeOS will reflect well on "Linux" though (specially at that price point) .. we can but hope ;)

Did they mention "Linux" unprompted, or did you drag it out of them ?
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 11:40:14 pm »
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Though it's nice to see them not being "ashamed" of Linux .. and I get your point about the contrast with early netbooks .. I'd still expect their "knowledge" of Linux to have been a half hour "sales pitch" lesson .. we are talking about PCWorld ;)

They were wearing Google T-Shirts. So I expect they were trained to be more than the run of the mill sales assistants.  ;D

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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 11:42:55 pm »
Ahh .. that explains that then :)

Still, they say "all advertising is good advertising" .. so it can't hurt, even if it just raises "Linux" awareness.

Which I'm guessing was your point .. the one I so deftly missed again ;)
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 11:49:49 pm »
Ah, I missed your edit again.
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Did they mention "Linux" unprompted, or did you drag it out of them ?

They mentioned it (unprompted) in the context of security and not needing a virus checker.

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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm »
That can only be good :)

It reminds me of when Dell were saying "Ubuntu is safer than Microsoft Windows" .. then promptly changed the wording of their site .. then even worse, stopped selling PC's with Ubuntu pre-installed.

Google have no reason to bow to the same pressure ;)

See the attached .pdf of (part of) the original Dell web page .. if you haven't seen it before.
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2012, 07:12:58 am »
With the way Microsoft are marketing Windows 8, this might just be the perfect situation where Linux finally gets it's gap in the desktop market to really put a stamp on it and say "HEY LOOK! I'M HERE! COME BUY ME!"
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2012, 01:08:12 pm »
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Google have no reason to bow to the same pressure ;)

Not Google but PC World might. It is a gamble for them:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8907767/Google-Chromebooks-one-in-10-computer-sales-in-a-years-time.html
Now, if Google would be retailing in their own shops then this would be a different story.

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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2012, 01:17:03 pm »
Good point :)

So might Samsung and Acer.

[EDIT]

Though didn't I read somewhere that Samsung already pay Microsoft a "tax" on Android phones to avoid Microsofts "claimed" FUD infringements.

Would be interesting to know how that agreement is worded .. particularly now the Android and Linux kernels are merging.
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Re: Chromebook booth in PC World
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2012, 04:33:06 pm »
What I find funny is even though everyone is fighting over patents which IMO are stupid, everyone is linked to each other in some way. For instance:

Apple's iPhone - Contains Samsung chips inside it.
Google's Android - Contains Samsung hardware
Microsoft's Windows Phone - Samsung pays taxes to Microsoft.


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