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Who remembers Betamax ?
« on: December 23, 2012, 06:31:55 pm »
Hi Guys

I never seem to be off this forum seeking help, but here I am seeking help again

recently I've been trying to digitize some old video footage from old video tapes,  after a lot of hair pulling and and online help I managed to digitize some old VHS footage using a USB Easycap device, but my next problem is I have some stuff I want digitized from old  Betamax tapes (You remember that) the trouble is I cant use the Easycap device this time because the Betamax machine only has RF Out but I have an old Hauppauge PSI video capture card (BT848KPF) which I've installed in my PC and I've connected the Betamax Video player to it via an Ariel lead, however as you probably guessed it aint working, Ive tried it in VLC and Cheese and another program I downloaded from synaptic called Zapping TV Viewer but none of them are picking up anything.
my immediate problem is I'm not sure if the driver is installed, Cheese appears to recognise the device but it' lists it as "BT848A video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENE (/dev/video0)"  which is a bit innocuous,

I found a site that suggested that Linux does supposrt this card but I can't find it again

Anyway what I'm trying to do may well not be possible and I'm just wasting my time but if anyone knows anything about this and can offer any suggestions It would be greatly  appreciated


Many thanks


Graeme
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 10:16:00 pm »
can you send the output from:
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lsmod
and then run:
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dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt
you'll then find a file called dmesg.txt in your home folder .. attach that to your next post.
also run:
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lspci -vnn > ~/lspci.txt
you'll then find a file called lspci.txt in your home folder .. attach that to your next post.
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 10:22:56 pm »
Thank you Mark

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
des_generic            21191  0
md4                    12523  0
snd_hrtimer            12648  1
gpio_ich               13159  0
arc4                   12473  2
snd_hda_codec_realtek    63356  1
coretemp               13168  0
bttv                  112147  0
videobuf_dma_sg        18714  1 bttv
videobuf_core          25097  2 bttv,videobuf_dma_sg
btcx_risc              13400  1 bttv
rc_core                21266  1 bttv
tveeprom               17009  1 bttv
v4l2_common            15767  1 bttv
videodev               95841  2 bttv,v4l2_common
microcode              18209  0
ath9k                 116549  0
mac80211              461161  1 ath9k
ath9k_common           13783  1 ath9k
ath9k_hw              376155  2 ath9k,ath9k_common
ath                    19187  3 ath9k,ath9k_common,ath9k_hw
cfg80211              175375  3 ath9k,mac80211,ath
serio_raw              13031  0
bnep                   17707  2
rfcomm                 37276  12
parport_pc             31968  0
lpc_ich                16925  0
ppdev                  12817  0
btusb                  17950  0
bluetooth             183228  22 bnep,rfcomm,btusb
joydev                 17161  0
nls_utf8               12493  6
cifs                  279812  8
fscache                50234  1 cifs
snd_hda_intel          32515  3
snd_hda_codec         111547  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep              13272  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                80163  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi           13132  0
snd_rawmidi            25382  1 snd_seq_midi
i915                  457161  3
snd_seq_midi_event     14475  1 snd_seq_midi
mac_hid                13037  0
snd_seq                51255  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
drm_kms_helper         45271  1 i915
drm                   230463  4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           13197  2 bttv,i915
snd_timer              24411  3 snd_hrtimer,snd_pcm,snd_seq
video                  18847  1 i915
snd_seq_device         14137  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    61991  16 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              14599  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         14036  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
lp                     13299  0
parport                40753  3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
hid_generic            12445  0
usbhid                 41702  0
hid                    82142  2 hid_generic,usbhid
uas                    17556  0
usb_storage            39350  0
r8169                  55976  0
graeme@Linux1 ~ $

Emegra

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 10:30:40 pm »
Hope this works

Emegra

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 10:31:32 pm »
Here's the other one

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 10:52:14 pm »
From your lspci.txt:
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02:02.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture [109e:0350] (rev 12)
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
   Memory at fdfff000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Kernel driver in use: bttv
   Kernel modules: bttv

Just to narrow down the logs could you run in Terminal:
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dmesg | grep bttv
lsmod | grep bttv

Emegra

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 10:53:27 pm »
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dmesg | grep bttv
[   14.907310] bttv: driver version 0.9.19 loaded
[   14.907316] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[   16.282532] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)
[   16.282557] bttv: 0: Bt848 (rev 18) at 0000:02:02.0, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfdfff000
[   16.283483] bttv: 0: using:  *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC ***  [card=0,autodetected]
[   16.283926] bttv: 0: tuner type unset
[   16.284201] bttv: 0: registered device video0
[   16.284360] bttv: 0: registered device vbi0
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ lsmod | grep bttv
bttv                  112147  0
videobuf_dma_sg        18714  1 bttv
videobuf_core          25097  2 bttv,videobuf_dma_sg
btcx_risc              13400  1 bttv
rc_core                21266  1 bttv
tveeprom               17009  1 bttv
v4l2_common            15767  1 bttv
videodev               95841  2 bttv,v4l2_common
i2c_algo_bit           13197  2 bttv,i915
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 11:19:03 pm »
Is this a capture only card or a TV/Capture card ?

What happens if you unload the bttv driver:
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sudo modprobe -r bttv
then reload it with the card=2 option:
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sudo modprobe bttv card=2

as described for the Hauppauge (bt848) card here:
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Bttv



Other links for my future reference:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/
and
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bttv_devices_%28bt848,_bt878%29#Driver



When you say "Hauppauge PSI video capture card (BT848KPF)" .. should PSI read PCI ? .. or is it some kind of model number ?
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 11:24:57 pm »

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s this a capture only card or a TV/Capture card ?

I think it's a tv capture but I'm not 100% sure

There was something with the code you posted , here's the output


graeme@Linux1 ~ $ sudo modprobe -r bttv
[sudo] password for graeme:
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/bttv, it will be ignored in a future release.
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ then sudo modprobe -r bttv card=2
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 11:31:10 pm »
I think that should have been:
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sudo modprobe bttv card=2

Emegra

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 11:37:46 pm »
I'm not sure if this signifies a problem
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graeme@Linux1 ~ $ sudo modprobe -r bttv
[sudo] password for graeme:
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/bttv, it will be ignored in a future release.
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ sudo modprobe bttv card=2
WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/bttv, it will be ignored in a future release.
graeme@Linux1 ~ $

I tried it in tvtime and before I was getting a line of interference at the top of the screen now I i just get a blue screen with "NO Signal" I'm not sure if that tells you anything

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 11:50:18 pm »
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I tried it in tvtime and before I was getting a line of interference at the top of the screen now I i just get a blue screen with "NO Signal" I'm not sure if that tells you anything

Once you get a blue screen, you know the driver is working. Just need confguring.
Please post the output from dmesg again:
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dmesg | grep bttv

If you already not have xawtv then please install it then run in Terminal:
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xawtv
Then:
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xawtv -hwscan

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 11:51:46 pm »
nah, that warning doesn't mean anything.

If it's capture only which you didn't answer BTW .. were you feeding it a signal ?

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Oh, and sorry SeZo was right, somehow I made a mess of the second command in my last posting .. I've corrected it now  :-[
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 11:54:46 pm »
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dmesg | grep bttv
[   14.907310] bttv: driver version 0.9.19 loaded
[   14.907316] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[   16.282532] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)
[   16.282557] bttv: 0: Bt848 (rev 18) at 0000:02:02.0, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfdfff000
[   16.283483] bttv: 0: using:  *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC ***  [card=0,autodetected]
[   16.283926] bttv: 0: tuner type unset
[   16.284201] bttv: 0: registered device video0
[   16.284360] bttv: 0: registered device vbi0
[ 3885.136167] bttv: 0: unloading
[ 4609.884789] bttv: driver version 0.9.19 loaded
[ 4609.884796] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[ 4609.884858] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)
[ 4609.884875] bttv: 0: Bt848 (rev 18) at 0000:02:02.0, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfdfff000
[ 4609.884895] bttv: 0: using: Hauppauge (bt848) [card=2,insmod option]
[ 4609.887407] bttv: 0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
[ 4609.919640] bttv: 0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#60114
[ 4609.919643] bttv: 0: tuner type=0
[ 4610.008239] bttv: 0: registered device video0
[ 4610.008317] bttv: 0: registered device vbi0
[ 5439.404507] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5439.404527] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5442.448780] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5442.448799] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5476.172858] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5476.172877] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5481.357855] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5481.357874] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5014,bits: VSYNC* HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5508.032493] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5508.032511] bttv: 0: SCERR @ 2eaa5000,bits: HSYNC OFLOW FBUS SCERR*
[ 5564.584014] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1411 irq=34292/40425, risc=2e858024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5565.124012] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1424 irq=34337/40470, risc=2e859024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5613.712012] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1529 irq=38618/44854, risc=2e9c5024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5614.284016] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1542 irq=38665/44901, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5615.144012] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1559 irq=38734/44972, risc=2e858024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5616.144014] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1569 irq=38824/45062, risc=2e902024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW
[ 5621.388013] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1594 irq=39276/45532, risc=2ebad024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5628.072013] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1625 irq=39850/46128, risc=2ebad024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5628.908013] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1645 irq=39920/46221, risc=2e9c5024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5629.452011] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1658 irq=39965/46266, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5630.008017] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1671 irq=40011/46312, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5630.568017] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1684 irq=40057/46358, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5631.128015] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1697 irq=40103/46406, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5631.688015] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1710 irq=40149/46452, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5632.248016] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1723 irq=40195/46498, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5632.808014] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1736 irq=40241/46544, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5633.364014] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1749 irq=40287/46592, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5633.924015] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1762 irq=40333/46643, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5634.484016] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1775 irq=40379/46689, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5635.044014] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1787 irq=40424/46736, risc=2e9c6024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5635.724012] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1803 irq=40481/46793, risc=2e888024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
[ 5636.268013] bttv: 0: timeout: drop=1816 irq=40526/46838, risc=2e889024, bits: HSYNC OFLOW FDSR
graeme@Linux1 ~ $

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 11:57:27 pm »
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ xawtv -hwscan
This is xawtv-3.102, running on Linux/i686 (3.5.0-17-generic)
looking for available devices
port 95-110
    type : Xvideo, image scaler
    name : Intel(R) Textured Video

port 111-111
    type : Xvideo, image scaler
    name : Intel(R) Video Overlay

/dev/video0: OK                         [ -device /dev/video0 ]
    type : libv4l
    name : BT848A video (Hauppauge (bt848)
    flags: overlay capture tuner

graeme@Linux1 ~ $

 


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