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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2012, 02:55:40 pm »
I'm using Mint 14

I cant get cheese to open in peppermint

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2012, 03:05:25 pm »
32 or 64bit ? .. and is it fully updated ?
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2012, 03:09:15 pm »
32 bit,    update manager says my system is up to date, I always run the updates as they appear

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2012, 03:31:26 pm »
This may be a bug in cheese or gstreamer .. do you know of any other way to record video ? .. this not being my strong area of expertise ???

Which version of cheese/gstreamer is Mint 14 using ?
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dpkg -l | grep cheese
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dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2012, 05:07:56 pm »
Hi Mark sorry I've not got back to you I've been called out on a breakdown, I'm in my office just now I think it's possible to record with VLC and  I have another program  called guvcview but it won't open in Mint or peppermint, but I should be home soon And I'll try VLC  and post the outputs you're looking for


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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2012, 06:19:23 pm »
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[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep cheese
ii  cheese                                      3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam
ii  cheese-common                               3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            all          Common files for the Cheese tool to take pictures and videos
ii  libcheese-gtk23:i386                        3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets
ii  libcheese7:i386                             3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - base library
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[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii  bluez-gstreamer                             4.101-0ubuntu6                            i386         Bluetooth GStreamer support
ii  gir1.2-gstreamer-0.10                       0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Description: GObject introspection data for the GStreamer library
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:i386                     0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg:i386                   0.10.13-5                                 i386         FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-gconf:i386                    0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugin for getting the sink/source information from GConf
ii  gstreamer0.10-nice:i386                     0.1.2-1                                   i386         ICE library (GStreamer plugin)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386              0.10.23-7ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse        0.10.21-1                                 i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set (Multiverse Variant)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386             0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugins from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps             0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer helper programs from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386             0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugins from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:i386             0.10.19-2                                 i386         GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:i386               0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
ii  gstreamer0.10-tools                         0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Tools for use with GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-x:i386                        0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386               1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386              1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386              1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-x:i386                         1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0:i386         0.10.23-7ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer shared libraries from the "bad" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:i386          1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer development files for libraries from the "bad" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:i386        0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer libraries from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386         1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer libraries from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:i386                     0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0:i386                      1.0.1-1                                   i386         Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  phonon-backend-gstreamer:i386               4:4.7.0really4.6.2-0ubuntu1               i386         Phonon GStreamer 0.10.x backend
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it's a bit involved recording with VLC  but if you want me to try it let me know and I'll give it my best shot

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2012, 09:25:49 pm »
OK, it looks like there was a shift from gstreamer0.10-plugins to gstreamer1.0-plugins in Ubuntu 12.10/Mint 14

So either the new gstreamer is broken (surprising as 1.0 sounds like a final release), or cheese hasn't caught up with the change.

but there seem to be a lot of bug reports of SIGSEGV crashes of cheese in 12.10 (which also mention your glibc error).
(search google for 12.10 cheese sigsegv and you'll see what I mean .. they all seem to be waiting for a "In Progress → Triaged" update to filter through)
See this one in particular:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/1062282

I suppose you could try the cheese 3.6.2 .debs for 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) .. located here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/3.6.2-0ubuntu1/+build/3978507

if they don't work, you can always uninstall them .. and reinstall 3.6.0 from the repos.

Or you could wait to see if an update is released .. 12.10 is still quite new, so it'll probably get fixed eventually

Or just use different capture software, and hope for the best.
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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2012, 11:37:32 pm »
Thank you Mark

Sorry I've taken so long to reply I've had some work problems today and it been a bit stressful, anyway I'll try what you suggest as soon as I can and let you know

Hope you have a nice Christmas you deserve it :)

Many thanks

Graeme

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2012, 01:15:45 pm »
Hi Mark

Hope you had a nice Christmas,

 I see what you're saying regarding bug reports (most of it goes over my head) but  it looks like this is a problem that's not gonna have an easy fix, it seems to me Linux support for this type of thing is at best weak so I don't think I should be wasting any more of your time with it, I still have the tapes and the machines, so nothing is lost, and I can try again sometime in the future.

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2012, 01:15:45 pm »

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2012, 02:04:39 pm »
it seems to me Linux support for this type of thing is at best weak so I don't think I should be wasting any more of your time with it, I still have the tapes and the machines, so nothing is lost, and I can try again sometime in the future.

Please do not jump to any quick conclusions. As your card is several generations out of date, you will find it even more difficult in the future.

Have you tried VLC?
Is your card able to produce the audio stream? and if it is, then is it connected to your sound card?

You could do some tests (you might have to install v4l-utils):
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v4l2-ctl --list-inputs
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v4l2-ctl -C mute
if you get 'mute: 1'
then:
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v4l2-ctl -c mute=0

then
That is -L just lower case:
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arecord -l


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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2012, 04:30:13 pm »
Hi SeZo
Thanks for you help, I'm not normally one to give up easily I just don't want to waste peoples time but I'm happy to give it another shot if you think it's do-able,

 I had video in tvtime and cheese (no audio) but I couldn't get anything to work in VLC, I tried changing various settings but it wouldn't work, Now I can't get in to work in tvtimer of cheese, I've even tried rebooting it just wont tune in,

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[email protected] ~ $ v4l2-ctl --list-inputs
The program 'v4l2-ctl' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install v4l-utils
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Should I try installing v41-utils ?

Many thanks

Graeme



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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2012, 06:06:04 pm »
Quote
Should I try installing v4l-utils ?

Yes, that would be a good idea as it provides tools to tweak the Video for Linux interface
Run the commands from the previous posting

In VLC try:
Media->Stream->Capture Device:

   Capture mode = Video for Linux 2
   Video device name = /dev/video0
   Audio device name = <your audio capture device obtained with 'arecord -l'>
   Video standard = PAL B/G

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2012, 06:32:37 pm »
Ok I did as you instructed I installed v4l-utils, and ran VLC here's screenshot to let you see what's happening

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2012, 06:45:10 pm »
OK, what was the output from:
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v4l2-ctl --list-inputs
and
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arecord -l

Also could you please run and post the output from:
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v4l-conf

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Re: Who remembers Betamax ?
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2012, 06:57:18 pm »
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[email protected] ~ $ v4l2-ctl --list-inputs
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT
Input       : 0
Name        : Television
Type        : 0x00000001
Audioset    : 0x00000001
Tuner       : 0x00000000
Standard    : 0x0000000000FFBFFF (PAL-B/B1/G/H/I/D/D1/K/M/N/Nc/60 NTSC-M/M-JP/M-KR SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc)
Status      : 0x00000100 (no hsync lock.)
Capabilities: 0x00000004 (SD presets

Input       : 1
Name        : Composite1
Type        : 0x00000002
Audioset    : 0x00000001
Tuner       : 0x00000000
Standard    : 0x0000000000FFBFFF (PAL-B/B1/G/H/I/D/D1/K/M/N/Nc/60 NTSC-M/M-JP/M-KR SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc)
Status      : 0x00000000 (ok)
Capabilities: 0x00000004 (SD presets)

Input       : 2
Name        : S-Video
Type        : 0x00000002
Audioset    : 0x00000001
Tuner       : 0x00000000
Standard    : 0x0000000000FFBFFF (PAL-B/B1/G/H/I/D/D1/K/M/N/Nc/60 NTSC-M/M-JP/M-KR SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc)
Status      : 0x00000000 (ok)
Capabilities: 0x00000004 (SD presets)

Input       : 3
Name        : Composite3
Type        : 0x00000002
Audioset    : 0x00000001
Tuner       : 0x00000000
Standard    : 0x0000000000FFBFFF (PAL-B/B1/G/H/I/D/D1/K/M/N/Nc/60 NTSC-M/M-JP/M-KR SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc)
Status      : 0x00000000 (ok)
Capabilities: 0x00000004 (SD presets)
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[email protected] ~ $ arecord -l
**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
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[email protected] ~ $ v4l-conf
v4l-conf: using X11 display :0
dga: version 2.0
WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display.
mode: 1600x900, depth=24, bpp=32, bpl=6400, base=unknown
WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
         configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
/dev/video0 [v4l2]: configuration done
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