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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2014, 10:26:40 am »
Hi Mark,
Here is an update to the situation, I have booted Peppermint 5 64 bit Live CD to this Desktop and it runs fine, the 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 also runs fine on my Peppermint Laptop. I also have a disc for Ubuntu 13.10 that I got with a book that I purchased and that also boots fine from the live DVD, it is just the 14.04 that doesnt boot. I will download the 64 bit version of 14.04 and then burn that and see if that boots ok.

Many thanks for your help as always, will get back to you when I have tried the 64 bit version.
Either way it is no big deal as 12.04 has 3 more years and Peppermint 5 will run fine so I am covered either way.


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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2014, 11:56:36 am »
Hi Mark,
Well tried the 64 bit but unfortunately same result, it boots to the Try Ubuntu screen, click on that and sometimes it boots and then freezes, i.e. the mouse does not work and there is nothing from the keyboard and sometimes it just goes to a blank screen.

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2014, 12:56:16 pm »
What graphics card do you have? This could be a "nomodeset" job

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2014, 01:50:22 pm »
This is the output from these commands:derek@derek-System-Product-Name:~$ lspci | grep VGA
00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
derek@derek-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo lshw -C video
[sudo] password for derek:
  *-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]
       vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
       physical id: d
       bus info: pci@0000:00:0d.0
       version: a2
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 66MHz
       capabilities: pm msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
       resources: irq:22 memory:de000000-deffffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:dd000000-ddffffff memory:dffc0000-dffdffff
Hope this is helpful.

Many thanks for your help and interest, it is much appreciated.


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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2014, 03:12:19 pm »
So Peppermint 5 works on this machine, but Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't ?
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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2014, 05:33:05 pm »
Hi Mark,
Yes that is correct and why I titled the thread, "Odd Happening".  The Desktop runs 12.04 fine, has booted to a live 13.10 DVD and boots to  live Peppermint 5 CD without problem, but the 14.04 just keeps freezing or ending in a blank screen, have tried 32 bit and 64 bit versions and 2 different types of DVD.
Really odd to me, but then I dont know that much.

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2014, 07:48:29 pm »
chemicalfan could be right.
You could try to boot it with the nomodeset parameter.

You can do that by hitting left shift key when boot starts and selecting f6 key.
Then from the menu presented select nomodeset. Then hit esc and enter.
See if that boots OK

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2014, 09:06:08 pm »
Thank you all for your help
@sezo, tried what you suggested, boots to the opening screen but then the mouse will not operate and there is no response from the keyboard, whatever I press.
Any further thoughts?

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2014, 09:41:13 pm »
What do you mean by "the opening screen", is that the desktop?
Did you select the try or install option?

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2014, 09:46:12 pm »
Yes I mean the desktop, and yes it was the try option. ONce on the desktop the cursor just sits there and will not respond to mouse movement and no response from the keyboard whatever keys are pressed.

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2014, 10:02:09 pm »
OK It is definitely a graphics problem.
Try Safe graphics mode:

Press F6 to open the other options menu.
This opens this new menu … then close it!
At this point the command options show up near the bottom of the screen. Press tab to access these options.
Press space one (to make some space) and enter:     –xforcevesa
Press enter to boot
The resulting display will not be pretty, but should be functional

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2014, 10:06:49 pm »
Thanks Sezo, will give that a go tomorrow.
I just don't understand why it boots Peppermint 5 no problem and even Ubuntu 13.10 but then falls down with 14.04, I thought Peppermint 5 was based on 14.04

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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2014, 01:01:57 am »
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I thought Peppermint 5 was based on 14.04

it is :)

So it has to be a problem with something we've ripped out .. iBus maybe ? .. we've got our own Peppermint control center that sets mouse/keyboard settings now .. half prompted because iBus was all over the place (buggy as hell).

Is there any way to get to a command prompt ?

maybe booting safe mode .. or Ctrl+Alt+F1 from the login screen/or desktop ?
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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2014, 02:43:35 pm »
Hi Guys,
This is the latest update, tried your suggestion Sezo about adding -xforcevesa and this seems to have worked as I am replying from within Ubuntu 14.04 on the self build laptop. The first time I tried it the system went through a series of checks said everything was alright and then asked me to reboot, this I did but of course it then booted to 12.04 as per the hard drive. Repeated the exercise and this time it worked, a very plain screen with just the words Ubuntu 14.04 and four dots underneath, then eventually the normal  desktop screen came up.
So now I am in a bit of a quandary, what is the next step, I now know I can boot to a live session, if I install from this stage will I have to make changes to the boot up procedure or will it just work? Your further help and advice would be appreciated.
As indicated earlier this is just something I have to decide as I could just go to Peppermint 5 on this desktop if need be, but I would rather like to keep Ubuntu on here.
Comments please Gents,

Once again thanks,
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Re: Odd happening
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 03:19:44 pm »
From the "Live" session, can you post the output from:
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sudo lshw -C display
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