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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2019, 11:58:30 pm »
Mintstick (aka. USB Image Writer in the menu) has never failed for me.

Hence why we have it in Peppermint :)
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2019, 10:58:30 am »
That's the one!  Your recommendation is enough for me. 
Lady friend due today with the offending laptop - if she remembers.  If not then I won't be able to try it until March, but I'll let you know.

My thanks as usual, Mark

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2019, 03:58:23 pm »
Laptop arrived and Lady-friend departed.
Downloaded Peppermint 9 and checked MD5SUM - OK.
Used Mintstick (USB Image Writer) to create a live USB. 
Everything was going well until I noticed that the USB device was no longer showing on file the manager. 
At the end of the process (success message) I refreshed the file manager page but still no sign of the USB.
Removed USB and rebooted.
USB device still does not show on Nautilus or Nero.  Knackered USB? 

I may have screwed up things as I normally use Nero although plugging a USB automatically brings up Nautilus.  Perhaps I closed the wrong window whilst waiting for things to end. 
I shall need to buy a few more USBs before trying again. 
Ah, me!

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2019, 11:29:31 pm »
Not sure what you're saying ?

Mintstick completed writing the LiveUSB ?

Did you use it to install ?

Have you tried using Gparted to format the USB stick ?

What OS are you using Mintstick in ?

When you say "doessn't show up", do you mean it doesn't automount, or that it doesn't display in the nautilus/nemo left hand pane ?
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2019, 09:41:26 am »
Mark,
I am using Ubuntu 16.04 on my main PC to create the Live USB.
The USB had already been formatted as I had been using it for other purposes.
Mintstick did complete writing the LiveUSB, and told me it was successful.
When I say "USB device still does not show on Nautilus or Nero" I mean it's name will no longer display on the LH pane. 
 - so I can't even attempt to use it for an installation or, indeed, for anything else. 

I think the problem was finger trouble - closing the wrong file manager (Nautilus rather than Nero) - during the process, so I shall buy a few USBs and try again.  And try to be a little less impatient next time. 
I'll return next week to report progress. 

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 04:11:15 pm »
New USB sticks arrived today.  They were MSDOS format which I did not change. 
Plugged one in and Nautilus started, showing "4GB Volume".
Ran USB Image Writer (Mintstick) to create a Live P9 USB.  During the process, the name "4GB Volume" changed to "Peppermint 9.
At the end of the process two things happened:
  1. a message appeared telling me that the write was successful.
  2. the USB device disappeared from the Nautilus left-hand pane.
The expected message to remove the USB device did not appear but I removed it anyway. 
Plugging it back in did not result in it appearing in Nautilus (or Nero).

So I now have two dead USB sticks. 
This is getting expensive!  Any ideas? 

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 04:40:02 pm »
Does the USB stick show up in Gparted ?

Or with the (unreadable) USB stick plugged in, what's the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo fdisk -l

And in Nemo, does the "Peppermint" stick appear in the left hand pane ?
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 04:47:30 pm »
Gparted immediately shows an error message: "Invalid partition table: recursive partition on /dev/sdb". 
Clicking on "Continue" shows both Partition and Filesystem as "unallocated"

Neither Nemo nor Nautilus show the device.

sudo fdisk -l
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Disk /dev/sdb: 3.8 GiB, 4026531840 bytes, 7864320 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x4c15e234

Device     Boot Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1  *        0 2758655 2758656  1.3G 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS

[EDIT]
I looked at another of these new USBs and found that I am not the owner: it's Root.  Might that have something to do with my problems?
On this other USB I had to use chown and chmod to be able to copy files to it but root is still the first name shown in ls -al


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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 11:32:43 pm »
The reason Gparted tells you there is an invalid partition table is mintstick uses the 'dd' method of writing the ISO to the USB stick .. this means the USB stick now contains an iso9660 file system (which is really a CDROM/DVD file system), so basically you've turned your USB stick into a CDROM.

This is meant to happen, but shouldn't stop nemo from being able to READ the USB (just not write to it.

This also why the other part of mintstick is "USB Stick Formatter", which will turn it back to a "normal" USB stick (with a read/write file system  .. FAT32 by default).
(or you could use GParted to write a new partition table to the USB stick, then add a FAT32 partition .. either method will turn it back into a "normal" USB stick)

There's probably nothing wrong here, except maybe that nemo isn't showing the USB stick in the left hand pane .. but you haven't yet said whether it is or not ?



Are you still having problems booting from the LiveUSB .. or is this just about the stick now being unusable as a "normal" USB stick ?
« Last Edit: January 24, 2019, 11:36:32 pm by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) »
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2019, 04:15:46 pm »
I mentioned in the previous post "Neither Nemo nor Nautilus show the device", which is mostly why I have been stuck and had to ask advice. 

I don't understand much of what you say about Gparted - I can do only simple things with it, like change the volume name.  Creating partitions is a whole new ball game that I'll need to practice on a spare device.
If your advice is to use the "USB Stick Formatter" and try again to create a Live USB, then I'll try that now. 
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 04:56:33 pm by Keith »

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2019, 04:31:30 pm »
1. Reformatted successfully as FAT32.
2. Used Minstick again to create the Live USB.
   During the process, Nemo showed the USB stick as "Peppermint 9".
   At the end of the process, the USB stick disappeared from the LH pane and a message appeared telling me that the write was successful. 
3. Rebooting Nero still fails to show the device. 
4. Gparted still claims:  "Invalid partition table: recursive partition on /dev/sdb" as before. 

[EDIT]
1. Reformatted the USB once more to FAT32.
2. Used UNetbootin this time to create the Live USB.
         This appeared to go well and Nero shows lots of appropriate files in the USB
3. Rebooted the PC with the USB stick in (and PC set to boot from it!)
         A brief message appeared too quickly to read except for "Missing..."
4. The PC booted into my normal Ubuntu. 

So:  Mintstick doesn't work for me and UNetbootin doesn't quite work either. 
Ah, me!
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 04:55:42 pm by Keith »

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2019, 07:18:56 pm »
Try restoring the USB stick to full capacity first:
(make sure sdb is the right drive first)
Code: [Select]
dd count=1 bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
This will zero everything (both MBR and partition table record)
then
For FAT32, install the dosfstools package and run:

Code: [Select]
cfdisk /dev/sdb
this will create a partition, then
Code: [Select]
mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb1
this will format that partition to F32.
Name the drive:
Code: [Select]
dosfslabel /dev/sdb1 USB_STICK

Once complete then (as Mark advised) reformat the drive with "USB Stick Formatter"
and use Mintstick to create a Live P9 USB

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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2019, 08:03:46 pm »
OK Sezo.

I tried your suggestion but got in a complete muddle as the system expected me to make decisions that I don't understand. 
So if you don't mind I'll await Mark's response.
Many thanks for trying to help me - sorry I'm so dim. 

Keith
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2019, 09:12:52 pm »
Ignoring whether Nemo/Nautilus can "see" the drive .. is it bootable ?

ie. have you tried booting from the USB stick ?
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Re: Peppermint 8 live USB not responding
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2019, 09:21:07 pm »
Yes, Mark:  As in post #25, I have tried booting from the USB but it always reverts to my installed Ubuntu 16.04  system. 
I've tried from scratch using a spare computer with the same result.  Also created an Ubuntu 18.04 USB but that won't boot either. 
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Does this help?:....
Using "USB Stick Formatter" on the USB drive creates a single FAT32 partition occupying the whole USB as shown in Gparted.

Then I use "USB Image Writer" to create a Ubuntu 18 (or Peppermint 9) Live USB. 
This process renames the USB automatically (irritatingly). 
File manager lists the files correctly. 

Then using Gparted again:
A message box displays immediately saying "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes". 
Cancelling this message, Gparted lists both the USB partition and file system as "unallocated" although file manager lists the files.

Just noticed that the "flag" on the USB partition is set to "lba" rather than "boot".  I'll set it to "boot" to see what happens.
Result:  "USB Image Writer" says successful write but Gparted says "unallocated" and file manager does not list the USB. 
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 10:43:15 pm by Keith »

 


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