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Re: external HD
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2018, 01:20:17 pm »
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Had a look at the Registration and guarantee and it looks pointless, I think I need to prove it is a MANUFACTURING fault before they will look at it.

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Re: external HD
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2018, 07:17:21 pm »
Sorry about the confusion Mark. It was just that the warranty mentioned that only manufacturing faults would be looked at IF the drive throws a wobbly.
 
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Re: external HD
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2018, 07:50:23 pm »
Well that doesn't affect your statutory rights to a 1 year warrantee from the seller.

But that's a standard warrantee for hardware .. they're not responsible for mistreatment, but formatting isn't 'mistreatment', it's a normal function of the drive.
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Re: external HD
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2018, 02:22:38 pm »
Hi Mark,
I have connected this external drive and used Gparted. The top right hand box lets me select/dev/sda (465.76 GB) or /dev/sdb (1.82 TB).
When I select /dev/sdb/ the screen shows 2 boxes, /dev/sdb1  (928.96GiB) and /dev/sdb2 (924.06 GiB) beneath that is 2 lines saying
Partition       File System                   Size                            Used                 Unused             Flags
/dev/sdb1      ntfs                          938.96 GiB                     93.79 MiB          938.87GiB         boot
/dev/sdb2      ext4                         924.06 GiB                     14.07 GiB          909.36 GiB

My problem is I can only access /dev/sdb1. I can access this using Linux and Win 10.
When I try to access the ext4 formatted /dev/sdb2 I get an error message. 'You don't have permission to access this folder ?'
When I use the 'Properties'  > Permissions it has the owner as 'Root' and at the bottom says 'You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions'

Can you tell me where I have went wrong and help me rectify it ?? please.

Don W
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Re: external HD
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2018, 09:38:36 pm »
with the drive attached, what's the output from:
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and
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Re: external HD
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2018, 12:56:47 pm »
Sorry for the trouble Mark.  :-[ I have formatted the drive as one single ntfs drive.
I have moved what I want from the Peppermint 7 system I have on my computer onto this external drive.
I have installed Peppermint 9 on my computer and am now in the process of putting the folders etc. from the external drive back to the new Pep 9 setup.
I have managed to set up the 2 printers, a Brother MFC-J591ODW and an Epson Expression Home XP-355, with the WiFi connection.
I have connected to all 3 of my email accounts and they are all working but I was wondering if I should use Thunderbird to keep all the accounts under the same umbrella, so to speak. ??
I have reset my logins for various sites, including this one as you can see.
I would like to keep the computer as free of all my wood working programmes, Inkscape, Gimp etc. and there are loads of sketches/pictures associated with these as well, so I would like to run them from the external drive if I can.
So I really need an external drive split in 2 with ntfs and Ext4 partitions as I would like to keep Win 10 stuff  and Peppermint stuff in separate places. Can you help with that ??
PS I have used those commands and get this
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don@ldwatson ~ $ mount
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1836692k,nr_inodes=459173,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=373688k,mode=755)
/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=24,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=1753)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime,pagesize=2M)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime)
sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=373684k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
/dev/fuse on /run/user/1000/doc type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/don/6C1CFC5436E518D4 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
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don@ldwatson ~ $ groups
don adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 04:58:05 pm by Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec) »
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Re: external HD
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2018, 01:45:00 pm »
There's no point in the output of you're formatting it with a single NTFS partition .. NTFS partitions don't support permissions, so no need for us to make it writeable by you.

The downside is any system backups to that drive from Linux will need to be compressed to preserve the file/folder permissions (and probably symlinks).

But if it's only to be used for storage, and compressed backups .. NTFS is fine.



Making the EXT4 partition writeable by you would have been a single command .. but you're drive, and only you know how you're gonna use it .. so your call :)
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Re: external HD
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2018, 04:08:13 pm »
Thanks Mark,
I have reinstalled all the folders on my new Pep 9  setup that I want and the external drive is clean.
I would like to split the external drive into 2 with one half as ntfs for my Win 10 stuff and the other half as Ext 4 for my Linux stuff. Could you guide me through the process ?? please.
I have the drive split as
/dev/sdb1    ntfs    976.22 GiB    boot
unallocated           886.86 GiB
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 04:23:33 pm by donwatson »
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Re: external HD
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2018, 04:57:01 pm »
If you have 886.86GB unpartitioned .. just fire up GParted

Select the external HDD (/dev/sdb) top right in Gparted.

Right-click in the empty space and select "New"

Set "Filesystem: ext4"

Click "Add"

Click "Apply"

Once done, close Gparted.

Open your file manager, and in the left hand column  click the new partition to mount it

Now you probably can't create anything in it yet .. but post the output from:
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Re: external HD
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2018, 05:32:27 pm »
Hi Mark,
This is what I have
don@ldwatson ~ $ mount
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1836692k,nr_inodes=459173,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=373688k,mode=755)
/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=24,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=1753)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime,pagesize=2M)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime)
sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=373684k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
/dev/fuse on /run/user/1000/doc type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
/dev/sdb2 on /media/don/89da7a13-3d3c-445d-b621-a8a188b508db type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
don@ldwatson ~ $
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Re: external HD
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2018, 06:33:22 pm »
Run:
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sudo chmod -R 777 /media/don/89da7a13-3d3c-445d-b621-a8a188b508db
can you write to the ext4 partition now ?
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Re: external HD
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2018, 07:19:08 pm »
Yes Mark  ;D ;D
That has solved my problem, thanks.
I can now dump the files/folders on to the external drive.
Thanks again
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Re: external HD (SOLVED)
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2018, 07:38:41 pm »
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