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[rincon]

hi there - good day dear experts

i have issues in updating a mx-linux system

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[email protected]:/home/martin# apt list --upgradable
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bind9-host/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
djvulibre-bin/oldstable 3.5.27.1-10+deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 3.5.27.1-10]
dnsutils/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
firefox/mx 96.0.1~mozillabinaries-1mx19+1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 93.0~mozillabinaries-1mx19+1]
ghostscript-x/oldstable 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u5 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u4]
ghostscript/oldstable 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u5 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u4]
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0/oldstable 2.34.3-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2.32.4-1~deb10u1]
gir1.2-webkit2-4.0/oldstable 2.34.3-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2.32.4-1~deb10u1]
libbind9-161/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libdjvulibre-text/oldstable,oldstable 3.5.27.1-10+deb10u1 all [aktualisierbar von: 3.5.27.1-10]
libdjvulibre21/oldstable 3.5.27.1-10+deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 3.5.27.1-10]
libdns-export1104/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libdns1104/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libgs9-common/oldstable,oldstable 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u5 all [aktualisierbar von: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u4]
libgs9/oldstable 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u5 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u4]
libhttp-parser2.8/oldstable-updates 2.8.1-1+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2.8.1-1+deb10u1]
libicu63/oldstable 63.1-6+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 63.1-6+deb10u1]
libirs161/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libisc-export1100/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libisc1100/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libisccc161/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libisccfg163/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18/oldstable 2.34.3-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2.32.4-1~deb10u1]
liblwres161/oldstable 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u6 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-5.1+deb10u5]
libnss3/oldstable 2:3.42.1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:3.42.1-1+deb10u3]
libpq5/oldstable 11.14-0+deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 11.13-0+deb10u1]
libsmbclient/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
libtiff-tools/oldstable 4.1.0+git191117-2~deb10u3 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 4.1.0+git191117-2~deb10u2]
libtiff5/oldstable 4.1.0+git191117-2~deb10u3 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 4.1.0+git191117-2~deb10u2]
libwbclient0/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37/oldstable 2.34.3-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2.32.4-1~deb10u1]
linux-kbuild-5.10/mx 5.10.92-1~mx19+1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 5.10.70-1~mx19+1]
linux-libc-dev/mx 5.15.5-1~mx19+1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 5.14.12-1~mx19+1]
lo-main-helper/mx,mx 21.08.8mx19 all [aktualisierbar von: 21.08.5mx19]
mx-conky-data/mx,mx 20211226 all [aktualisierbar von: 20210301mx21]
mx-datetime/mx 21.11 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 21.9]
mx-live-usb-maker/mx 22.1.01 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 21.7]
mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/mx,mx 21.08.8mx19 all [aktualisierbar von: 21.08.5mx19]
mx-repo-list/mx,mx 21.12.02 all [aktualisierbar von: 21.7]
mx-tools/mx 21.11 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 21.8.02]
mx-user/mx 21.12 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 21.5]
mx-welcome-data/mx,mx 21.10.02mx19 all [aktualisierbar von: 20.10.02]
mx-welcome/mx 22.01.02 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 20.07.01]
openjdk-11-jre-headless/oldstable 11.0.14+9-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 11.0.12+7-2~deb10u1]
openjdk-11-jre/oldstable 11.0.14+9-1~deb10u1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 11.0.12+7-2~deb10u1]
python-samba/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
python3-lxml/oldstable 4.3.2-1+deb10u4 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 4.3.2-1+deb10u3]
python3-pil/oldstable 5.4.1-2+deb10u3 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 5.4.1-2+deb10u2]
samba-common-bin/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
samba-common/oldstable,oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 all [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
samba-libs/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
samba/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
smbclient/oldstable 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1]
smxi-inxi-antix/mx,mx 0.4.22 all [aktualisierbar von: 0.4.21mx19+1]
vivaldi-stable/stable 5.0.2497.48-1 amd64 [aktualisierbar von: 4.3.2439.56-1]
[email protected]:/home/martin# sudo apt update
Holen:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [51,9 kB]
Holen:2 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster InRelease [19,9 kB]
OK:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease                                           
Ign:4 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Holen:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [65,4 kB]
OK:6 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Holen:7 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Packages [443 kB]
Holen:9 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster/main i386 Packages [436 kB]
Holen:10 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main amd64 Packages [313 kB]
Holen:11 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Contents (deb) [3.366 kB]
Holen:12 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main i386 Packages [312 kB]         
Holen:13 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main Translation-en [169 kB]
Holen:14 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster/main i386 Contents (deb) [3.356 kB]
Es wurden 8.532 kB in 8 s geholt (1.127 kB/s).                                                                           
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Aktualisierung für 59 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
N: Das Laden der konfigurierten Datei »main/binary-i386/Packages« wird übersprungen, da das Depot »http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease« die Architektur »i386« nicht unterstützt.
[email protected]:/home/martin#




well - dear Keith - i guess that i need to rename the Vivaldi-sources


hmm - from
deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable

to

deb [arch=amd64] http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable

or so...!?

[Keith]

Your output does say that i386 architecture is not supported and it seems that "VIVALDI does not exist in the arch linux official repo (pacman) but it does exist unofficial arch repo ".  Have a look at https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/52257/vivaldi-does-not-exist-in-arch-linux-official-repo-pacman-but-it-does-in-unofficial-arch-repo-aur for more information.

Keith

[DavidMcCann]

Not being a Debian user or familiar with apt, I can't offer direct help, but this page may be useful:
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/manual-setup-vivaldi-linux-repositories/

@ Keith — you've confused arch (architecture) with Arch!

[Keith]

David 

Excuse my ignorance!  Thanks for correcting me. 

Keith

[rincon]

good day dear Keith good day dear David,


first of all - many many thanks for the continued help here. I am very glad to be part of this great forum.
i did a upgrade

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apt upgrade



see the resluts   https://codeshare.io/8pzE4B


well:  Vivaldi was on the notebook in a 32 Bit-System - which is not supportet any more


see the System of MX-Linux on the Notebook

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[email protected]:~
$ dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
[email protected]:~
$ dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
[email protected]:~


[Keith]

It's always good practice to issue

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sudo ap updatebefore

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sudo apt upgradeI didn't see any code in your codeshare link.

The link in David's post looks very promising and is worth a try. 
Alternatively, there are very good instructions for downloading and installing 64 bit Vivaldi here: https://www.atechtown.com/install-vivaldi-browser-on-linux/
By the way, can you remind us what your operating system is? 

Keith

[rincon]

hi Keith
many thanks for the reply.  ohh - the code vanished. It is only alive 24 hours.
I guess that i can repost it - later the day.

It's always good practice to issue

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sudo ap updatebefore

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sudo apt upgradeI didn't see any code in your codeshare link.

The link in David's post looks very promising and is worth a try. 
Alternatively, there are very good instructions for downloading and installing 64 bit Vivaldi here: https://www.atechtown.com/install-vivaldi-browser-on-linux/
By the way, can you remind us what your operating system is? 

Keith

the system is mx linux


have a great day.
and yes: i am going to try to repost the code later the day. (the ressource i have put it - does not store it more than 24 hrs.
Hope i have it still at home ..

greetings
Rincon 

[rincon]

dear Keith

again me-  here the code:

https://codeshare.io/8pzE4B

Hopfully they store it not only 24 hrs.

have a great day.  - and many thanks for all your tipps.
BTW. this forum is awesome: i am glad to be here in this great place.  Is fantastic to see how supportive and nice all ppl are here.

Awesome - 

greetings

[Keith]

Thanks for that.
It looks OK, although my German is a bit rusty.  The only potential problem that I noticed was the warning "QStandardPaths: wrong ownership on runtime directory /run/user/1000, 1000 instead of 0".  I seem to remember that user number is usually 1000 in Ubuntu-based operating systems, but I'm no expert. 

Since your system is 64-bit, I suggest that you install 64-bit Vivaldi using one of the links suggested previously. 
I am familiar with neither MX nor Vivaldi so I can't offer any more advice, except that you might receive better help from an MX forum such as https://forum.mxlinux.org/.  I hope you are more successful. 


Keith

[rincon]

hi dear Keith,

many thanks for your quick reply.


sorry for the german output...

And of course - thanks for the heads up regarding the ownership - i will have a closer look at this.
btw: does this relay on the mehtod of installation ( of various programs: eg. if i install some as root and others not as root - does this make any difference in the subsequent layout and ownership)

Thanks for that.
It looks OK, although my German is a bit rusty.  The only potential problem that I noticed was the warning "QStandardPaths: wrong ownership on runtime directory /run/user/1000, 1000 instead of 0".  I seem to remember that user number is usually 1000 in Ubuntu-based operating systems, but I'm no expert. 

thanks for the hint -

Since your system is 64-bit, I suggest that you install 64-bit Vivaldi using one of the links suggested previously. 
I am familiar with neither MX nor Vivaldi so I can't offer any more advice, except that you might receive better help from an MX forum such as https://forum.mxlinux.org/.  I hope you are more successful. 
Keith

many thanks for all the hints and for your ideas.  These are valid points. I will take care.

Dear Keith - your forum here is so great. An awesome place.
have a great day.

regards Rincon

[Keith]

if i install some as root and others not as root - does this make any difference in the subsequent layout and ownership

Not to the layout, but installing using sudo is safer as commands issued as root can have devastating consequences if you make an error. 
And yes: ownership depends on who is installing - you or root.

Keith

[rincon]

hello dear Keith

many thanks for the reply.

Not to the layout, but installing using sudo is safer as commands issued as root can have devastating consequences if you make an error.
And yes: ownership depends on who is installing - you or root.

thank you for the heads up.  agreed. will furthermore handle these things safer - and work as sudo

have a great weekend.

regards
Rincon