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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2011, 09:42:06 pm »
Hi kstkst... and welcome to the forum.

You're more than welcome :) .. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2011, 11:58:39 pm »
Posted by: Mark Greaves (PCNetSpec)
« on: Today at 06:05:41 pm »

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Who mentioned anything about going back to FF2...

you did!

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OK, first don't panic... you should still be able start your old version of firefox

but thank you for the explanation. I appreciate your time and effort.  PM me please, since having a rant on a public forum really is not good manners. My appologies to all.

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2011, 12:04:04 am »
No I didn't... I said you would be able to start the version at /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.14/firefox from the command line if necessary.
Which on *your* machine, happens to be FF3
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2011, 01:35:49 am »
I'm not arguing with you. merely asking for clarity for my understanding on what you said, since what you said is not clear.

ah. so opening a terminal in the first reply and opening a  command line in the second reply must mean the same thing. either way opening up  a terminal to start ff2 is not the same as re-instating ff2, which is what I believe you meant when you said to start the old version.  Hence my confusion for non clarity.  but ff2 can still be accessed if need be by using a terminal to run a command line. Clarity. I understand.

'Backing up FF2 in this way was NOT what stopped your desktop from screwing up. '

My desktop has never screwed up thankfully. Why you think this, I don't know. May have me confused with another person.

The rest I understand and agree with. ff2 was backed up. by backing up ff2 moved it from ff2 folder, to a backup folder. This  leaves ff2 folder empty but retains its name and merely placing ff3 into ff2 folder.

Ready to proceed when your ready and if you are still willing.

Part of the link I posted means that some instructions do not always work for all. 

'these instructions (barring the AA1 sudo bug or typos) have worked for everyone who has tried them.'  I'm glad that these instrucctins have worked for the majority.  Therefore what works for some, there will always be an exception to the rule.   Unfortunately, my pc happens to be an exception.

I am all ears and willing to learn and apply any instructions. BUT, I need you to be clear so that I don't have to question what you mean when two different ways of wording command line and terminal in essence means the same thing.

Moving on how can I fix it please

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2011, 02:02:44 am »
@ bec456

I would have thought that using the phrase "enter this command in a terminal" in 3 postings, then using the term "command line" in the same context would have been fairly self explanatory, but I would have been happy to clarify if you'd asked rather than ranted.

All I was getting at was that your statement:

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ff2 is fully backed up since if it wasn't I'd have lost the desktop. I still have my desktop.

was in fact only half correct... it wasn't the fact that you'd backed up FF2 that somehow stopped your desktop from being "lost", it was the fact that you hadn't uninstalled FF2... I didn't want any future readers thinking it would be safe to backup FF2, then uninstall it... this would definitely kill their desktop... it's the act of uninstalling FF2 that kills the desktop.

You stated in your first post:

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yum says I've got lib++6 library thing that it told me was missing and it has unpacked the firefox 5.0 tar ball and copy and pasted the ln link command but still no upgrade

nowhere in my instructions is the use of yum to install anything mentioned, and if done correctly yum will be completely unaware of the FF5  and libstdc++6.so installation.

I still stand by my statement that *if entered correctly*, and barring the Linpus Lite sudo bug, these instructions will work for EVERYONE... including *your* AA1.

Anyway...

I take it you've followed my instructions for FF5 pretty much to completion... can you answer these questions, so I can find out how much got installed.

At the moment, are you able to open FF3 from the desktop icon, or are you having to enter a command in the terminal ?

Open a terminal and enter:
Code: [Select]
ls -l /opt
and post the output (what is returned in the terminal after running the command)

then enter:
Code: [Select]
ls -l /opt/firefox/libstdc++6.so
and post the output.

then enter:
Code: [Select]
ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
and post the output

then enter:
Code: [Select]
echo $PATH
and post the output

Remember, Linux commands ARE case sensitive, so enter them exactly as shown... probably best to copy/paste and also visually verify the command before hitting enter.
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2011, 02:10:57 am »
I don't understand how Mark could have been anymore "clearer" than what he is posting. Clearly, if you hadn't used another set of instructions we may have not ended up here, because as far as I'm aware, these instructions are down to a tea. This is why we tell people to read, and re-read instruction to ensure situations like this are eliminated.
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2011, 04:57:56 pm »
BkS I'm glad they worked for you. the other instructions worked for me. credit to mm2004 for those instructions!


Mark.  'nowhere in my instructions is the use of yum to install anything.'  I know you didn't. I used yum to CHECK what had been installed.yum says as quoted. I didn't use yum to actually install anything connected with firefox because of the info in macles blog states it drags loads of info with it. please don't assume or 'try to pre-empt what you *think* I'm saying  :)

Credit to Macles blog says not to uninstall ff2, so I never have.  I created a backup instead so if there were problems I could revert to ff2 should it have become necessary.

[root@localhost user]# ls -l /opt
total 12
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2008-06-03 18:29 Adobe
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4096 2011-06-16 00:04 firefox
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2011-07-13 22:54 GKxdatacard
[root@localhost user]# ls -l /opt/firefox/libstdc++6.so
ls: cannot access /opt/firefox/libstdc++6.so: No such file or directory
[root@localhost user]# ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6108 2008-06-12 09:35 /usr/bin/firefox
[root@localhost user]# echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/acer/bin:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/home/user/bin:/usr/acer/bin
[root@localhost user]#


I can open ff3 from my desk top and from a terminal.  I have never not been able to following mm2004 instructions to upgrade ff2 to ff3.  It was unfortunately following Macles instructions to install ff3, I lost desktop use to access the net and terminal use to access the net.  losing desktop does not mean I didn't have a desktop at all; it merely means that clicking on the browser icon on the desktop, I got the spinny thing but nothing else.

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2011, 05:11:41 pm »
I *do* understand what you said, it just doesn't make sense... you obviously don't understand the Yellowdog Updater Modified's job... YUM will NOT be able to track the installation of FF5 or libstdc++6 as it ONLY tracks "package" installation... neither of these are being installed as "packages".

Sorry, I made a typo in one of the "list" commands...

What is the output from:
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ls -l /opt/firefox/libstdc++.so.6

One other thing... are you logged on as root ? .. or are you changing to root in the terminal ?

If unsure... when you first open a terminal, before you enter anything, does your prompt look like this:
[root@localhost user]#

or is it something else that ends with an $
similar to:
[user@localhost user]$
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2011, 07:28:08 pm »
[root@localhost user]# ls -l /opt/firfox/libstdc++.so.6
ls: cannot access /opt/firfox/libstdc++.so.6: No such file or directory
[root@localhost user]#

[user@localhost ~]$

oh come on mark, it says root at the beginning. you only get to root after typing the password so Macles said.

you also know I don't have an /opt/firefox directory. since you said so wryly yourself.

what is is you really need to be able to help me since I just feel you are trying to wind me up.  I'm annoyed witth this pc not doing what you tell me it should do when I follow your instructions.  Will you please stop giving me a hard time. I'm annoyed with it, not you since I appreciate you are trying to help me.

yellowdog updater has not shown it's face to me so, yes I don't know what it is.  quite frankly I'm beyond caring right now. I just want to get this sorted.
what do you need next to see if you can get my pc to work the way you think it should?

one difference I have noticed is some have their names in whare it says user.

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2011, 07:39:32 pm »
I've already explained WHY I needed you to answer a few questions:

I take it you've followed my instructions for FF5 pretty much to completion... can you answer these questions, so I can find out how much got installed.

You've followed the  instructions at the top of this topic since I last said you had no /opt/firefox directory... your last response:

Quote from: bec456
[root@localhost user]# ls -l /opt
total 12
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 4096 2008-06-03 18:29 Adobe
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4096 2011-06-16 00:04 firefox

Says you now DO have an /opt/firefox directory

d = directory, so you DO (now) have a directory called firefox at /opt

I was trying to find out if you'd managed to put libstdc++.so.6 in that directory yet.

I'm sorry, but I cannot... no I *refuse* to help you, when you question everything I ask in an amazingly arrogant manner for someone that is asking for help.

I suggest you go off and learn the Linux command line, as with your attitude you will find help hard to come by on forums.

Quote from: bec456
oh come on mark, it says root at the beginning. you only get to root after typing the password so Macles said.

do a bit of research before jumping to conclusions... you can get to a root prompt many ways, one of which is by logging on as root... so it was a perfectly reasonable question that would have had a bearing on ownership of the /opt/firefox directory.

I already know what is stopping macles and my instructions working for you... and if you'd just answered the (necessary) questions without the attitude, it would be fixed by now.

Goodbye.
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2011, 08:12:24 pm »
yippee I've done it! your beautiful! thank you!

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2011, 03:22:33 am »
I registered for this website just so I could say THANK YOU for your great tutorial for how to upgrade to firefox 5 and update flash.  I followed both to the letter and they worked fantastically.

I just restarted school and I got out my old netbook and I keep having problems with the school websites and flash.  I was considering updating the whole thing to Ubuntu 11.04 but I didn't really want to both with something that extreme when all I really needed was a newer version of firefox and flash.

Thanks again so very very much. 

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2011, 11:12:21 am »
Hi familyguy, welcome to the forum.

You're very welcome, and thanks for responding .. it's always nice to hear from people that the instructions helped :)
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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2011, 12:50:02 am »
 ;DMark- you are my hero!  My netbook is now again a wonderful machine and not a doorstop.  Your instructions even worked for such a Noob as I (and that's saying a lot: it took me a few tries to figure out that to 'run' the commands I had to press Enter ???) My son is going to be so thrilled that it's working and hopefully he'll stop saying' Mom, I keep telling you - just get a Mac) I'm about to go surfing with joy now.  You're brilliant, you are, for all your effort and patience. :-*

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Re: Install Firefox 5 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2011, 09:32:30 am »
Hi 8gamemix, welcome to the forum :)

I'm happy it's breathed new life into your netbook :) .. Though I doubt (if your kids are anything like mine) that your son will stop wanting a "Mac" as they are more of a status symbol than anything else... IMHO Apple stuff is just overpriced rubbish... that said, when I was a kid I flatly refused to wear anything other than Wrangler or Levi's jeans and Adidas trainers, so nothing really changes ;)

I've also added a bit to the original instructions about pressing the Enter key to 'run' the commands... thanks for pointing that out :)
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