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   Thanks. No I have the FF6 in Downloads. Found the /opt, but it doesn't show up in shortcut view at all, only in tree view- really don't understand their directory structure- it seems to be a mess compared to Ubuntu. In OPT only have directories: Adobe  GKxdatacard

I don't have a user name- I recovered this beast, and when I try to do a password it wants an old one- anyone know what the default one was (00000?), so the folder in home directory is USER. It is funky- had some SSD problem and it wasn't booting up for 6 months, when I rapped it on the sides it worked, Was going to dissemble it, but problem hasn't returned in a few weeks.

Kind of scared to try this- what is terminal command to open old FF (mine's 3 but not in /opt) if 6 doesn't work well.

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2011, 06:25:32 pm »
You say you don't know the "user" password... as far as I'm aware it doesn't ask for one

what happens if you enter:
Code: [Select]
sudo mousepad
and hit enter.

does it ask for a password ? .. if so try leaving it blank .. does mousepad open ?

[EDIT]

We'd have to find where Firefox 3 got installed... do you know where on the system it is installed ?

If not, can you post the output from:
sudo find / -name firefo*
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2011, 03:08:05 am »
The password is 111111
And you can execute "sudo su -", then you can be the super user.

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2011, 01:32:00 pm »
The default password will no doubt be a very handy piece of info for a lot of users... Thanks :)

I still contend that using sudo -s (for CLI commands and NON-GUI apps, see the WARNING and CAVEAT below) is better than using both sudo and su in the same command... though you'd probably get away with it 99.99999% of the time, you are effectively stacking 2 sets of PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) rules... Now I know that pam is supposed to be able to stack rules:
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_pam.htm
But I still contend using sudo -s to achieve an interactive root shell "as user" and using the "user" password (and therefore a single pam authentication rule) is a better idea ;)

Not to mention the fact that if ~ is used in a path as part of a command (to represent your home directory), it will still represent your "user" home directory.... whereas with sudo su, ~ will represent the /root directory. :) .. though I suppose I *should* add a warning and caveat here:

WARNING - Creating, or editing and saving anything in your "home" directory whilst running as root (by any method, eg. sudo, sudo su, or sudo -s) will cause it to be created/saved with root as the owner and group... ie. it will NOT (or no longer) be owned by the "user" account... so use with caution.
(if you intend to make any changes in your home directory, it's best done from a normal user $ prompt, rather than a root # prompt)

CAVEAT
- If you intend to run any GUI (grapical) applications from the command line "as root", getting to the root prompt with sudo su would probably be a better idea, as graphical applications may save their configuration files in the "home" directory, and you don't want the permissions to have changed in your "user" home directory.
(*similar* to the sudo Vs gksudo argument for running GUI apps in GNOME)

I think my point is... be aware of the difference(s), and what can happen.  :o
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2011, 07:59:34 pm »
Well, I did it with ~/Downloads/FF and it worked OK. I followed your instructions exactly + it put it in Downloads (my default dir for, ah, DOWNLOADS!!! ha ha). That's what I was asking- how can it know where that file is- you have to tell it. But the lib6 file went into /home. Shoulda downloaded 6.1 (any important fixes in that?), but why be current- more fun to do the same thing over and over. Actually once it was running, did it (6.0.1) off the website- hope that doesn't bung up the Linpus version.  It wants to update the flash player too- will it understand + do the LINPUS version... or break it. Did this initially offline, and it opens OK without asking for that last file in your dropbox (6.0). Already redirecting from main icon so not sure what creating new profile is for.  But I'll dutifully install it- I don't know enough to alter your edicts, and who knows what its online behavior is.  Will there be an option for the old FF3.0.3 in the right click advanced menu, or can I make that? Did the find /firefox* search but it found nothing (you need name?) Actually the new profile was annoying, losing all my bookmarks, windows, add-ons; so I went back to default, which also uses 6.0.1. Couldn't find an import profile or settings tab.

 I think the default behavior for Linpus is some crazy loop that gave everyone su priviledges and defeated all security provisions of the Linux password. Read some post on it and several people concurred, inc my roommate who was just snapped up from Ukraine by Google NYC. It would ask for password on petty stuff, but allow one (or any hacker) to do major changes without it!  Please do explain more what each of these arcane instructions do (great that you do)- most of us understand general principles so can tweak things, so we don't have to ask you dumb questions. First you said you don't have to reinstall new Flashplayer, then you said you should- actually it wasn't playing Daily Show anyway, but never tested it properly.  Good- can set a real good password so next time I dont use it for 4 months, it's a doorstop.

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2011, 08:22:27 pm »
Quote from: mako6
how can it know where that file is

If you'd followed the instructions (using wget) rather than "manually" downloading the Firefox archive from the Mozilla website... the location of the Firefox archive would have been irrelevant as the wget command would have downloaded it to the current directory, and the next command would have unpacked it from the current directory to /opt :)

If you "manually" download it from the Mozilla website, you would either have to cd into the directory that you downloaded it to, or amend the path in the tar command.

There is no special Linpus version of FF6... the wget command just downloads the normal Linux version from the Mozilla website, to the current directory.

I'm guessing either Mozilla have changed the libstdc++ version requirement for FF6, or Linpus have sent the newer version through as an OS update, because you are the second person to say they didn't need that file... I'll leave it in the instructions because it won't hurt to have a copy in the /opt/firefox directory, and if I take it out you can guarantee someone will need it :)

The ONLY reason for creating a new profile, is because the FIRST  time you start FF6 it will update the databases in the current profile... meaning you would no longer be able to use that profile in the old version of Firefox (if you ever needed to).

I said IF YOU'D ALREADY INSTALLED THE NEW VERSION OF FLASHPLAYER... there was no need to RE-install it ;)

Anyway... glad it worked out for you :)
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2011, 07:24:09 pm »
Instructions updated to Firefox 6.0.2
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2011, 10:00:59 pm »
Topic split at this point, because it went a little off topic, and wasn't "really" related to (or caused by) the instructions in this topic.

Split to here:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/netbooks/linpus-lite-messed-up-file-system/

@ teebee .. go to the above link.

ANY other postings related to installing Firefox 6 using the instructions in the first posting of this topic... post them here :)
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2011, 08:50:13 pm »
I'm using Firefox 2.0.014 & am trying to install Firefox 6 following the instructions. Using terminal, what exactly does "connection refused" mean? Is something not working properly?

I know wget has worked as I can see the firefox-6 bz2 file listed in file manager.

The extract comes up with "Connection refused" followed by
firefox/
firefox/mozilla-xremote-client
etc.etc

Create plugins seems to have worked without a problem

Change group to user just says "Connection refused"

Is something going wrong or is it normal??

I'm usually good with computers but linux is new to me.

Thanks.

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2011, 08:58:19 pm »
The "connection refused" error is a known bug in sudo on Linpus Lite.

You can either safely ignore it and continue regardless of the error (works for most people).

Or

For every command that starts with sudo .. change to a root prompt with:
Code: [Select]
sudo su

the prompt should then change from an $ to an #

then enter the same command, but leave off the sudo from the beginning.

you can exit the root prompt (for commands that DON'T start with sudo), by entering
Code: [Select]
exit
in the terminal and hitting enter.
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2011, 09:40:20 pm »
Thanks Mark, I'll give that a try & let you know what happens (maybe not tonight though)

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2011, 10:12:54 pm »
Pleased to say it worked!

Just ignored "connection refused" and continued to the end.

After re-booting it even automatically updated to Firefox 7.0.1

Thanks again.

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2011, 10:19:50 pm »
You're welcome :) .. you might want to follow the instructions for updating the flashplayer though.
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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2011, 05:10:25 pm »
Mark

You are totally amazing

I have just done the Firefox upgrade (and even almost understood what I was doing thanks to your excellent instructions)
And like Sharpo I got the automatic update to Firefox 7.0.1

Then I did the Flashplayer upggrade (Your instructions* Oct 07). I now have version 10.3.183.7 installed and working so we can watch iPlayer again (they upgraded it recently and I couldn't watch it ) - so my wife will be thrilled!

BUT why have I got the wrong Flashplayer? Going to Tools>Addons>Plugins there is only that one ShockwaveFlash.
And when I click 'Check to see if your plugins are up to date' it says it is up to date. Have I done something wrong?

* BTW When you have a moment (ha ha) you could add annotation to Flash like the Firefox instructions

Thanks again for all your skill - you saved this Acer from going to landfill!
AA1 with SSD. Running Peppermint 3 (formerly on Linpus). Really grateful to Mark for keeping me going!

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Re: Install Firefox 6 on an Acer Aspire One running Linpus Lite Linux
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2011, 05:41:34 pm »
Oops!
I see what I have done - must have used the wrong set of instructions after all
Sorry!
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