Thinking of changing disro for better support. [I went Ubuntu 18]

I’m currently using Linux lite but getting help if something goes wrong is getting problematic. If I come here or anywhere else there’s generally a lot of head scratching. So I’m thinking of trying something else & would like some suggestions please. I would like something that I will able to get help with easily if needed but doesn’t need to be all sing/dancing. most use would be internet. Least technical to use would be a help too. TIA.

Hello Rattleback

It would be very helpful if you would provide some information about your PC. I note from your other post that you can only boot into the command line, but assuming this is the normal command prompt you may be able to control your PC normally from there, and be able to run Firefox etc. If this is so, then please enter the following command and post the output here:

inxi -Fx

If you don’t have inxi installed you can do so as follows:

sudo apt-get install inxi

Keith

It does make life easier if you have a distro with a lot of users, preferably including experts. You have a modern computer which will run anything, so you have a good choice. If you like the user interface of Lite, MX Linux is the same. It’s very reliable and has a large community.

On the other hand, you may be able to get things sorted. That’s often the best bet — you see people who have a problem with distro X, so they install distro Y, promptly have a different problem with than, and so go to distro Z … it gets endless, until they give up and go back to Windows.

Yes MXLinux/Antix are good choices and Devuan Linux and its Derivatives like Refracta (Good community).

Thanks for those suggestions. I’ll look into those distros . I do like lite’s interface so defo look at MX. I know I don’t want to run down the ‘keep changing distros’ path. Nor go back to windows which was worse in both performance & support. I just want something where I can get support. My post on lite’s forum still has no reply after 3 days, & there are increasing numbers of posts there also getting 0 replies.

Sorry for the delay, Keith, I had a busy day yesterday . Results inxi (once I could spell it right). Lot of info to copy so I’m only doing the stuff I hope is useful :

HP 15 notebook pc mod no 2213
kernel; 4.40-185generic x86_64 (64bit gcc; 5.4.0) console; tty 1 distro ; [nothing here]
bios; Insyde v;F.39
Quad core intel pentium n3540 cache;1024 kb flags; (-) bmips; 4326
network; card-1; realtek rtl8188ee wireless network adapter driver; rtl8188ee IF; wlp2so state; up speed; n/a duplex; n/a
mac; 9c;ad;97;36;21;a7
card-2; realtek rtl810ex pci express fast ethernet controller IF; p3p1 state; down mac; 38;63;bb;84;74;7a
drives; HDD; 500 gb (18.2% used) ID-1; /dev/sda
partition; id-1; / size; 451G used; 78gb (19% used) fs; ext4 dev; /dev/sda1
id-2; swap-1 size 8.47gb used 0.00gb fs; swap dev; /dev/sda5
raid; no raid devices; /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
sensors; none detected - lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info; processes; -1 uptime; 5 min memory; 144.2/7875.5MB Init; systemd Gcc sys; 5.4.0 Client; shell (bash) inxi; 2.2.35

I’ll now try your other suggestion of install updates. fingers crossed.

No problem, Rattleback. The info will help the experts make suggestions.
I was particularly interested to see that no distro is listed. Odd, but probably not significant.

Hi Rattle,

I read one of your posts about Lite going t-------s up and only getting commandline did you ever get your files off??

Rattleback - Going back to your first post in this topic:
You say: I would like something that I will able to get help with easily if needed but doesn’t need to be all sing/dancing. most use would be internet. Least technical to use would be a help too. TIA.
Probably the most popular Linux OS on this Forum is Ubuntu which, like Peppermint, has its own Topic Board here, but many Members swear by Mint and other lite versions. All my elderly friends (oldest 86) like Ubuntu but not the default Unity Desktop - everyone I’ve spoken to about it prefers the “Classic View” which can be installed quickly. The Classic View is particularly intuitive and easy to use and is very configurable.

Most help is available for the more popular Linux flavours, so to be most confident of getting help I suggest either, Ubuntu, Mint or Peppermint. Peppermint 10 is popular but this review says:
The default collection is odd. You don’t get much really. Peppermint 10 goes for a rather Web-y solution, with Dropbox, Google Calendar and Microsoft Online Office single-site launchers, somewhat similar to Manjaro. This is nice, but an offline capability would be nice, too. The media player does not respect my theme.
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/peppermint-10-review.html

Perhaps the best way forward is to create several “Live USBs” that will allow you to try different Linux versions without installing them, and choose the one that appeals most. When you’ve backed up your files! You don’t even have to fix your present problems as you need only set the BIOS to boot from a USB.

Keith

Darry - not yet. If you can help me do so please reply in the other post. Thanks. (still not a sausage from the LL forum.)

Thanks Keith. I had a leaning towards Ubuntu when I posted. Once I’ve backed up files I’ll be looking at that & MX but as I’ve only just heard of MX Ubuntu’s got a big head start.

Just adding my two penn’orth -

I’m a big fan of Mint, having tried several other distros over the years, which is a good all-round package. I have Mint 19.1 Mate on my main computer and Mint XFCE on two very old laptops which both run very well. Mint has good support worldwide. :wink:

See here - New Features in Linux Mint 19.1 'Tessa' Xfce Edition - Linux Mint

Rich

Rich,
How much RAM is XFCE running on your old laptops?

Keith

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Perhaps the best way forward is to create several “Live USBs” that will allow you to try different Linux versions without installing them, and choose the one that appeals most. When you’ve backed up your files! You don’t even have to fix your present problems as you need only set the BIOS to boot from a USB.

Keith
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You could use this method to get into your hard drive to retrieve lost files – Puppy comes to mind. Always a good idea to have a toolkit like that if something happens. Also a great way of altering or replacing a corrupted file with the original off the install iso to restore your system. Had to do this many times otherwise a re-install. Just a thought.

Dell Latitude D520 - 1Gb Ram, Toshiba Satellite Pro - 1.5Gb Ram. Both on Linux Lite 3.8. Main issue is both have u/s batteries so run direct from mains power (which defeats the object of a laptop!) but as they are basically test/emergency rigs it’s no biggie! They are both freebies and so old not worth the expense of new batteries. I tend to get given redundant kit from the family from time to time and have great joy in converting them to Linux! The kids are amazed at how fast they run compared to the original Windows system but I still can’t wean them off Windows, despite the fact they all use Android phones… ::slight_smile: C’est la vie!

Thanks, Rich.

I’m always amazed by how little RAM one can get away with - I gave away a Dell 510 with 1GB working quite happily with Ubuntu.
I notice quite a lot of people lauding LinuxLite even on top-end PCs so I might give it a go out of interest, and also the XFCE desktop.

As for kids and Windows: I have no idea! Must be the Micro$oft eye candy.

Keith

Hi, I’ve been using XFCE (XUbuntu) for quite some time, GNome for me just leaks memory like a sieve. Although I still run XFCE on my laptop as it’s a little low on RAM, memory is now so cheap … I upgraded workstation a few months ago to 32Gb and switched to Plasma desktop on KUbuntu … have to say, it is pretty smooth and I’ve not had any problems with it … not thinking of switching to anything else based on it’s current performance …

Also (!) I’m not one to plug specific products (!) however, I stuck one of these in my machine too for around 60 quid;

WD Blue SN550 500GB, M.2 Pcie NVMe SSD

Now sixty quid for a 500G SSD seems pretty reasonable anyway, but this thing delivers 2G/sec read and 1G/sec write.

  • mind-blowing performance, love to hear if there are any other devices out there with similar price/performance … ?

Just finish up the story. I have now accessed & backed up my home files :). I’m opting for Ubuntu 18.04. This is based almost entirely on the support/popularity as many a time while seeking solutions or instructions for LinuxLite the info I’ve come across relates to Ubuntu distros. Working from the live USB it also seems quite usable for me. Thanks yo all for your suggestions.

P.S. last question on this. Would it be easy to switch between the default desktop & ‘classic view’, so that I could try each out ?

Re “Classic view”: yes, very easy. Let us know when you have installed Ubuntu and feel ready to try it.

Keith

Not doing badly with the default desktop, but would still like to have a look at “classic view”. So how do I swap ? TIA.

I suggest that you start another topic under Ubuntu - “Changing from Unity Desktop to Classic View” - and we’ll do it there.

Keith