graeme@Linux1 ~ $ v4l2-ctl --list-audio-inputs
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ v4l2-ctl --list-audio-outputs
ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDOUT
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ v4l2-ctl --all
Driver Info (not using libv4l2):
Driver name : bttv
Card type : BT848A video (Hauppauge (bt848)
Bus info : PCI:0000:02:02.0
Driver version: 3.5.5
Capabilities : 0x05010015
Video Capture
Video Overlay
VBI Capture
Tuner
Read/Write
Streaming
Format Video Capture:
Width/Height : 384/288
Pixel Format : 'YUYV'
Field : Interlaced
Bytes per Line: 768
Size Image : 221184
Colorspace : Unknown (00000000)
Format Video Overlay:
Left/Top : 0/0
Width/Height: 320/240
Field : Any
Chroma Key : 0x00000000
Global Alpha: 0x00
Clip Count : 0
Clip Bitmap : No
Format VBI Capture:
Sampling Rate : 35468950 Hz
Offset : 244 samples (6.87926e-06 secs after leading edge)
Samples per Line: 2048
Sample Format : GREY
Start 1st Field : 7
Count 1st Field : 16
Start 2nd Field : 320
Count 2nd Field : 16
Framebuffer Format:
Capability : Clipping List
Flags :
Width : 1600
Height : 900
Pixel Format : 'BGR4'
Bytes per Line: 6400
Size image : 0
Colorspace : Unknown (00000000)
Crop Capability Invalid:
Bounds : Left 68, Top 16, Width 1063, Height 608
Default : Left 186, Top 46, Width 924, Height 576
Pixel Aspect: 1135/944
Crop: Left 186, Top 46, Width 924, Height 576
Video input : 0 (Television: ok)
Audio input : 0 (audio)
Frequency: 12532 (783.250000 MHz)
Video Standard = 0x00000007
PAL-B/B1/G
Streaming Parameters Video Capture:
Frames per second: 25.000 (25/1)
Read buffers : 0
Tuner:
Name : Television
Capabilities : 62.5 kHz multi-standard
Frequency range : 44.0 MHz - 958.0 MHz
Signal strength/AFC : 100%/0
Current audio mode : lang2
Available subchannels: mono
Priority: 2
graeme@Linux1 ~ $
So xawtv s somehow initialising the sound yet VLC isn’t … how odd … if anything I would have expected xawtv to be the one that had problems with sound as it wants to use OSS ???
But I suppose it gives you sommat to go on.
Does xawtv have a config file ?
run:
sudo updatedb
then post the output from:
locate xawtv
[EDIT]
According to this:
there may be 2 config files:-
Global = /etc/X11/xawtvrc
User = ~/.xawtv ← hidden file
Might be handy to see their contents -
gedit /etc/X11/xawtvrc
and
gedit ~/.xawtv
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Hi Mark
You’re not gonna believe this but I just got to the point where I was about to do the first record and the VHS packed up, You couldn’t make it up, after all you and SeZo have went through to get this workable. maybe I should take the hint and give up. I should be able to get hold of another VHS fairly quick and start over again.
I apologise if you and SeZo think I’ve wasted your time but I will get another VHS and carry on from here
Many thanks
Graeme
That’s lady luck for you :
NO, I for one certainly don’t consider it wasted time … I’ve picked up quite a bit from SeZo (and your experimenting/tweaking) during this process … an area (v4l2/capture) that I’m kinda “weak” on, so it’s all good.
Give us a shout when you get another player
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I was going to say something along the lines of …
Next time, why not give us sommat easy like plotting a chart after determining the velocity of my head and the angular velocity of a brick wall using the first 100 prime numbers as the coefficient of restitution.
But that would:-
a) take al the fun out of learning this capture stuff from SeZo
b) be cheeky
and
c) hurt
[EDIT]
Ooops, nearly forgot -
d) you’ll probably tell me you’re a maths professor, and pick faults with the question.
Next time, why not give us sommat easy like plotting a chart after determining the velocity of my head and the angular velocity of a brick wall using the first 100 prime numbers as the coefficient of restitution.
Because I know how much you like a challenge Mark and if you remember right I told you the last time you helped me solve a problem, I’ll find something that would stump you,
Ok I admit I didn’t quite do that but I came close, I’ll get you the next time
But in all seriousness this really shouldn’t be rocket science, after all is said and done all I wanted to do was convert an analogue signal to a digital file, and I Probably had the best Linux brains in the country behind me and it was still a nightmare
Anyway a huge thank you to yourself and SeZo for your effort and patience I know I didn’t make it easy for either of you at times
Graeme
I agree, it shouldn’t be rocket science … and will no doubt have been a lot easier if the card manufacturers supported Linux in the first place rather than leaving it to the community to come up with their own open source drivers/configs/applications.
That said … it IS doable, so the Linux/bbtv/v4l2 devs have at least done a pretty good job, probably without any input from the manufacturers, and it not being a priority case like graphics card drivers, wireless, etc.
Oh, and please don’t include me in the “best Linux brains in the country” group … I’m just a “user” like you, so it wouldn’t be hard to find things I can’t fix … but I enjoy the learning/challenge
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Oh, and please don't include me in the "best Linux brains in the country" group
I didn’t mean to sound patronizing when I said that Mark and don’t be so modest, you are not a user like me, I’m clueless you can help people and you only have to look through this forum to see that, I wish I could do the same and until manufacturers start supporting Linux in the way they support Microsoft Windows people like you and SeZo are the only way people like me can use use Linux in any meaningful way
Graeme
Not patronizing at all … I just don’t want you (or anyone else) to think that just because I’m an admin on this forum, that I have anything to do with Linux development … I’m purely a “user” that’s picked up a few tricks along the way with help from other community members … so am trying to give back where I can … kinda the “Linux way”
Not patronizing at all .. I just don't want you (or anyone else) to think that just because I'm an admin on this forum, that I have anything to do with Linux development
I accept you have nothing to do with Linux development in the direct sense of the word and there is probably many things you don’t have the answer to (I’ve just yet to find one ), I’m a motor mechanic and I don’t know everything about motor cars, but my point is that without people like you and SeZo and others Linux would not be a viable proposition for the average user so in that sense of the word you are a part of Linux development, Linux needs people like you… it’s kinda the Linux way
I'm an admin on this forum
I judge you only by your deeds not by your title
Graeme
Heh ;D … OK I’ll accept your gratitude, and walk away (for the time being) with an semi-inflated sense of “worth” … if only to shut you up before I come over all embarrassed 
Linux would not be a viable proposition for the average user
This is a very popular Urban Legend, i.e. Windows is somehow easier to learn than Linux … the issue is that people have been using Windows since the early 90’s and whether they realise it or not, have picked up “bits”, hence Windows seems easier to navigate, simply because there is a degree of familiarity.
I’m pretty sure that if Windows was the newcomer the reverse would be true (!)
As Windows was viable without us, it follows that Linux would also be viable … it just might take a little longer so solve issues …
[I do recall having Windows issues outstanding for months (and years) and at the time, it was simply a fact of Computing life … ]
[I do recall having Windows issues outstanding for months (and years) and at the time, it was simply a fact of Computing life ... ]
No change there then … very little gets fixed in Windows unless they consider it a feature they can sell you in the next version.
if only to shut you up before I come over all embarrassed
I’m sorry Mark It wasn’t said to embarrass you I was only trying to express my opinion on Linux and how it appears to users like me and how we depend on others to help us do things we perceive to be simple in Windows.
I don’t think Windows is any easier to use than Linux it’s just that it’s so much better supported by third party hardware manufacturers and software vendors alike (therein lies the catch 22 whereby hardware manufacturers wont support it until in becomes more popular and it wont become more popular until more hardware manufacturers support it ) so average (ex windows) users need to depend on the community of which you, SeZo & Mad Penguin etc are a big part of, so in that sense you are part of Linux development, that’s all I was trying to say, I can’t make up my mind if that’s a strength or a weakness in Linux but for me it’s certainly a attraction in spite of the difficulty it can often cause, but that would never turn me back to Windows as long as the Linux alternative was open to me.
Graeme
I did add a wink at the end of that … all tongue in cheek
All I know is if you find some hardware that doesn’t work out-of-the-box, or is no longer supported in Windows, you’re stuffed … at least with Linux there’s usually a workaround/fix/tweak and a community that tries to help.
For me, Linux has put the fun back into computing … it’s no longer completely out of my hands …
I suppose Linux has put the “Personal” back into Personal Computer/Computing
All I know is if you find some hardware that doesn't work out-of-the-box, or is no longer supported in Windows, you're stuffed .. at least with Linux there's *usually* a workaround/fix/tweak and a community that tries to help.
That’s exactly the attraction I was talking about… but is that a strength or a weakness ? because nowadays we have become so brainwashed that if we come across a piece of hardware Windows doesn’t support we just go buy a new one…it’s kinda the Windows way
Graeme
A matter of perspective I suppose … me, I’m in it for the fun of learning so I know which I prefer.
Windows can certainly claim manufacturer/hardware support as a strength … Linux can claim “community” support, and their ability to find ways to get non supported hardware working.
I’d call that a tie … but Windows (and the proprietary world as a whole) has many other issues that I think FAR outweigh the slightly harder work of getting Linux tweaked the way you want it
Also … there’s nothing stopping you buying a new capture card that is known to be Linux friendly … in “kinda the Windows way” … the same can’t be said the other way round
rofl
Yes, we had a Betamax (papa was Patent Lawyer so we got stuff before the shops did). It had cassettes the size of house bricks and each one was 30 minutes long (enough to record MASH). The buttons needed a small hammer to operate and the whole unit was the size of a medium suitcase. Many chins on the floor when I showed that to school friends (“you can record the TV?”).
We also had this weird unit with a keypad on the end of a huge length of wire that displayed pages of text on the TV screen (teletext). Never understood that idea, it seems to be broken from the outset - cruddy looking text and pages that took ages to load - a bit like going online with Windows 98 and a dial up modem used to be.
You don’t still have it do you mine is f***ed
First the Betamax then the VHS…
You seems to be jinxed with this recording business
That output by the way does not give any clues in respect of the sound.
Will resume (if you still want to) once you got the new gear.
But you might be outta luck with the Betamax, they are a bit scarce nowdays