Who remembers Betamax ?

Ok it’s working now I tuned the test signal into channel 97 in tvtimer and it locked in so now it’s also working in cheese at least video is but I’ll worry about the sound tomorrow

thank you both so much for all your help

If I have problems with sound can I just post back on this thread or should I start another ?

Sorry about the misunderstanding :slight_smile:

Many thanks

Graeme

Stick with this topic … it may as well all be in one place :wink:

remember you’ll have to set that bttv card=2 after each reboot, unless you add it as an “option” in a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d

Wanna do that now, or tomorrow ?

remember you'll have to set that bttv card=2 after each reboot, unless you add it as an "option" in a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d

Wanna do that now, or tomorrow ?

Yes I would like to do that tomorrow :slight_smile:

Once again thanks for your help and SeZo

Graeme

okey dokey :slight_smile:

OK, to load the bttv driver with the “card=2” option set at each boot … open a terminal and run:

sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bttv.conf

a BLANK file should open.

add this single line:-

options bttv card=2

SAVE the file, and exit gedit.

Now to test … REBOOT … then send the output from:

dmesg | grep card=

There’s still the chance that “card=2” is incorrect, as the vendor:device ID string your card is providing is a generic one … but that can be experimented with later … for now we know it at least gives you video.

Oh … who the hell bought Betamax over VHS anyway ::slight_smile: … did you also fall for miniDisk over CD-R/W and HD-DVD over BlueRay ? :wink:
(though in all 3 cases the inferior technology won out)

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Hi Mark

Thanks for the info, I’m at work just now but I’ll try your instructions when I get home and report back

Oh .. who the hell bought Betamax over VHS anyway .. did you also fall for miniDisk over CD-R/W and HD-DVD over BlueRay ? (though in all 3 cases the inferior technology won out)

I bought a Betamax recorder because I’m a sucker for the underdog, why do you think I use Linux ?

But seriously as I remember Betamax and VHS were about equal in popularity for a while, and I was also led to believe that Betamax was a actually a better system, I never really understood the difference other than Betamax tapes being slightly smaller or why VHS ended up dominating but no doubt big business and big money were probably behind it somewhere.

Once again thanks for your help

Graeme

Hey, I fell for Philips CD-i as a games console … what a mistake that was :-[

I forgot about the Phillips V2000 system that was also going around at the time, I never had one I was too smart :slight_smile:

or was I ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_2000 :slight_smile:

OK I followed your instructions and here’s the output you asked for

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dmesg | grep card=
[   16.466181] bttv: 0: using: Hauppauge (bt848) [card=2,insmod option]
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ 

The video will play in both tvtime & cheese although i have no sound in either, however if i try to record cheese will instantly shut down

I ran cheese from the terminal the output when I try to record it big so I’ve posted it to pastebin if it’s any help http://pastebin.com/Hzs6hbPy

Many thanks

Graeme

Is this Mint 13, 14, or Peppermint 3 ?

32 or 64bit ?

.

I’m using Mint 14

I cant get cheese to open in peppermint

32 or 64bit ? … and is it fully updated ?

32 bit, update manager says my system is up to date, I always run the updates as they appear

This may be a bug in cheese or gstreamer … do you know of any other way to record video ? … this not being my strong area of expertise ???

Which version of cheese/gstreamer is Mint 14 using ?

dpkg -l | grep cheese

and

dpkg -l | grep gstreamer

Hi Mark sorry I’ve not got back to you I’ve been called out on a breakdown, I’m in my office just now I think it’s possible to record with VLC and I have another program called guvcview but it won’t open in Mint or peppermint, but I should be home soon And I’ll try VLC and post the outputs you’re looking for

Many thanks

Graeme

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep cheese
ii  cheese                                      3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam
ii  cheese-common                               3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            all          Common files for the Cheese tool to take pictures and videos
ii  libcheese-gtk23:i386                        3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets
ii  libcheese7:i386                             3.6.0-0ubuntu1                            i386         tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - base library
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ 


graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii  bluez-gstreamer                             4.101-0ubuntu6                            i386         Bluetooth GStreamer support
ii  gir1.2-gstreamer-0.10                       0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Description: GObject introspection data for the GStreamer library
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:i386                     0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg:i386                   0.10.13-5                                 i386         FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-gconf:i386                    0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugin for getting the sink/source information from GConf
ii  gstreamer0.10-nice:i386                     0.1.2-1                                   i386         ICE library (GStreamer plugin)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386              0.10.23-7ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse        0.10.21-1                                 i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set (Multiverse Variant)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386             0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugins from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps             0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer helper programs from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386             0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugins from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:i386             0.10.19-2                                 i386         GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:i386               0.10.31-3ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
ii  gstreamer0.10-tools                         0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Tools for use with GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-x:i386                        0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386               1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386              1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386              1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-x:i386                         1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0:i386         0.10.23-7ubuntu1                          i386         GStreamer shared libraries from the "bad" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0:i386          1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer development files for libraries from the "bad" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:i386        0.10.36-1ubuntu1.1                        i386         GStreamer libraries from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386         1.0.1-1                                   i386         GStreamer libraries from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:i386                     0.10.36-1ubuntu2                          i386         Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0:i386                      1.0.1-1                                   i386         Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  phonon-backend-gstreamer:i386               4:4.7.0really4.6.2-0ubuntu1               i386         Phonon GStreamer 0.10.x backend
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ 

it’s a bit involved recording with VLC but if you want me to try it let me know and I’ll give it my best shot

OK, it looks like there was a shift from gstreamer0.10-plugins to gstreamer1.0-plugins in Ubuntu 12.10/Mint 14

So either the new gstreamer is broken (surprising as 1.0 sounds like a final release), or cheese hasn’t caught up with the change.

but there seem to be a lot of bug reports of SIGSEGV crashes of cheese in 12.10 (which also mention your glibc error).
(search google for 12.10 cheese sigsegv and you’ll see what I mean … they all seem to be waiting for a “In Progress → Triaged” update to filter through)
See this one in particular:

I suppose you could try the cheese 3.6.2 .debs for 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) … located here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/3.6.2-0ubuntu1/+build/3978507

if they don’t work, you can always uninstall them … and reinstall 3.6.0 from the repos.

Or you could wait to see if an update is released … 12.10 is still quite new, so it’ll probably get fixed eventually

Or just use different capture software, and hope for the best.

Thank you Mark

Sorry I’ve taken so long to reply I’ve had some work problems today and it been a bit stressful, anyway I’ll try what you suggest as soon as I can and let you know

Hope you have a nice Christmas you deserve it :slight_smile:

Many thanks

Graeme

Hi Mark

Hope you had a nice Christmas,

I see what you’re saying regarding bug reports (most of it goes over my head) but it looks like this is a problem that’s not gonna have an easy fix, it seems to me Linux support for this type of thing is at best weak so I don’t think I should be wasting any more of your time with it, I still have the tapes and the machines, so nothing is lost, and I can try again sometime in the future.

Many thanks

Graeme

Please do not jump to any quick conclusions. As your card is several generations out of date, you will find it even more difficult in the future.

Have you tried VLC?
Is your card able to produce the audio stream? and if it is, then is it connected to your sound card?

You could do some tests (you might have to install v4l-utils):

v4l2-ctl --list-inputs
v4l2-ctl -C mute

if you get ‘mute: 1’
then:

v4l2-ctl -c mute=0

then
That is -L just lower case:

arecord -l