Who remembers Betamax ?

@ Emegra

As Mark suggested change the /etc/modprobe.d/bttv.conf

from:-

options bttv card=2

to
options tuner type=0
options bttv card=2 audiodev=1

then REBOOTING to test.

Once rebooted run:

dmesg | egrep '(bttv|bt84?|tveeprom)'

and

xawtv -hwscan

And will go from there

Ok thanks for your patience with this

I’m at work at the moment but I’ll try that when I get home and report back

Watch this space :slight_smile:

Many thanks

Graeme

Have you connected the TV/Capture card to your souncard ?

Have you connected the TV/Capture card to your souncard ?

No I didn’t think I had to I thought it would receive video and audio through the RF cable

Ok did as requested but I still can’t tune in to cheese or tvtime, Cheese just gives me a snowy picture and I’v tried scanning the channels in tvtime 3 times and I get nothing I’ve attached a screenshot of Cheese preferences showing it’s loading the correct card if that’s any help

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dmesg | egrep '(bttv|bt84?|tveeprom)'
[   13.991344] bttv: driver version 0.9.19 loaded
[   13.991346] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
[   15.431674] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0)
[   15.431698] bttv: 0: Bt848 (rev 18) at 0000:02:02.0, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfdfff000
[   15.431725] bttv: 0: using: Hauppauge (bt848) [card=2,insmod option]
[   15.434243] bttv: 0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
[   15.467245] tveeprom 6-0050: Hauppauge model 60114, rev CV  , serial# 541867
[   15.467252] tveeprom 6-0050: tuner model is Temic 4002FH5 (idx 14, type 0)
[   15.467256] tveeprom 6-0050: TV standards PAL(B/G) (eeprom 0x04)
[   15.467259] tveeprom 6-0050: audio processor is MSP3410D (idx 5)
[   15.467262] tveeprom 6-0050: has no radio
[   15.467265] bttv: 0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#60114
[   15.467267] bttv: 0: tuner type=0
[   15.576571] msp3400 6-0040: MSP3410D-B4 found @ 0x80 (bt848 #0 [sw])
[   15.693041] bttv: 0: registered device video0
[   15.693140] bttv: 0: registered device vbi0
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ dmesg | egrep '(bttv|bt84?|tveeprom)'
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ xawtv -hwscan
This is xawtv-3.102, running on Linux/i686 (3.5.0-17-generic)
looking for available devices
port 95-110
    type : Xvideo, image scaler
    name : Intel(R) Textured Video

port 111-111
    type : Xvideo, image scaler
    name : Intel(R) Video Overlay

/dev/video0: OK                         [ -device /dev/video0 ]
    type : libv4l
    name : BT848A video (Hauppauge (bt848)
    flags: overlay capture tuner 

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ 

Many thanks

Graeme

Don’t expect the TV card to work … it’s liable to be an “analogue” TV tuner … broadcasting of analogue channels ceased in this country a couple of years ago … it all digital (DVB) now, so unless the card is digital you won’t get any TV channels.

Can still be used to “capture” an analogue input though … such as from a video tape recorder.

Can still be used to "capture" an analogue input though .. such as from a video tape recorder.

That’s all I want to do Mark :slight_smile:

Many thanks

Graeme

Sorry got delayed, daughters 21st :-[
@Mark
We do not expect it to pick up any analogue channels other than the coax input from the betamax. :wink:

@Emegra
The Cheese picture would indicate that the tuner needs to be adjusted to match the channel of the betamax output.
Try to set up the right source for v4l in xawtv:

xawtv -device /dev/video0

Tune to the correct channel using tvtimer (that worked before) then
Get current TV frequency

v4l2-ctl --get-freq 

Save it for later and re-set it as and when required with:

v4l2-ctl --set-freq=<Tune the card to a TV input frequency> 

Sorry, I obviously misunderstood:-

I'v tried scanning the channels in tvtime 3 times and I get nothing

My mistake … should put brain in gear before engaging mouth :wink:

Tune to the correct channel using tvtimer (that worked before) then Get current TV frequency

I can’t get tv time to tune in anymore I dont know why , I tried all the possible channels in all the tv standards (PAL, PAL BG etc) in xawtv (channel hopping) but it’s just not happening, I also tried tuning in the VHS I have and it wont tune in either, the odd thing is I did have video in tvtime and cheese but I’ve obviously done something that’s screwed that up.

Anyway it’s late and I have work in the morning if you guys don’t mind continuing this tomorrow I would appreciate it, on the other hand if you tell me to bugger off you’ve had enough I’ll understand

Thank a million for your efforts so far I really appreciate it

Goodnight

Graeme

if it was tuning previously … try commenting out (or removing) the:-

options tuner type=0

in:-

/etc/modprobe.d/bttv.conf

then REBOOTING


We can try other tuners later, if necessary, from this list:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/#TUNMOD

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@Mark

Hmm, according to this post he lost the tuning ability before the introduction of the tuner, but it is worth to try to remove that line
and try again tomorrow. :-\

@ Emegra
No problem, we all got our other distractions, well some of us more than others :wink:

If that’s the case … maybe VLC or gucview are keeping hold of something (maybe /dev/video0)

I wonder if purging vlc and gucview would help.

Just a thought ???

Actually … didn’t Pooky just say he had to purge tvtime before his DVB card would work in VLC ?

[EDIT]

Ignore that … it looks like he had to purge and reinstall tvtime:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=9778.msg79984#msg79984

maybe worth a shot.

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Hi Guys

We made massive progress but now things are worse than ever

firstly I uncommented line options tuner type=0 then opened up xawtv and both machines tuned in perfect, The betamax tuned in on channel 26 and the VHS tuned in on channel 60 the video image was good on both machines although I had no sound on either, I tried recording in xawtv and I got an error message something like error [init], I then tried tvtime and the VHS tuned in on channel 131 but the Betamax wouldn’t tune in at all, both machines tuned into Cheese but again crashed when I tried to record, Then I went back to xawtv and tuned in the VHS it tuned in ok but I was getting vertical interference lines that I couldn’t get rid of so i decided to reboot, after reboot neither Cheese, tvtime or xawtv will open, they just flash open for a second and disappear, the terminal output when xawtv fails says something about lack of resources (video ram) but I can’t post the exact output as I’m at work right now , but I will do that when I get home.

Once again thanks for your effort

Graeme

You still haven’t confirmed you’ve connected your TV/Capture card to your soundcard ?

Have you considered creating a Mint 13 or Ubuntu 12.04 LiveUSB with persistence … booting to it … and seeing if cheese works in that ?

What was the problem with cheese in Peppermint ?


Then again you may be better off waiting for SeZo’s advice … I don’t have a TV/Capture card for me to test things on.

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It seems very erratic the way the card behaves. :-\

firstly I uncommented line options tuner type=0 then opened up xawtv and both machines tuned in perfect

Just ncommenting the tuner line (without unloading the module) would have left the tuner module loaded until your next boot.
So when you tested the tuning it was in fact with the loaded tuner module. But after the reboot the modification came into effect.
Is it now loaded?

lsmod | egrep '(bttv|tuner)'

Hi Mark

You still haven't confirmed you've connected your TV/Capture card to your soundcard ?

I did answer that on an earlier post

No I didn't think I had to I thought it would receive video and audio through the RF cable
Have you considered creating a Mint 13 or Ubuntu 12.04 LiveUSB with persistence .. booting to it .. and seeing if cheese works in that ?
No I haven't done that but I can can try to install to usb and run that if you think it will help
What was the problem with cheese in Peppermint ?

Cheese wont open in peppermint I’ve tried uninstalling and re-installing but it just wont open

To be honest I’ve been getting quite a lot of weird behaviour in both my Mint & Peppermint installs, I can’t think of a time when I have been more disillusioned with Linux since I moved to it, I understand the problems are probably more my own doing and my lack of understanding rather than the fault of Linux but I seem to be having a hard time with it lately, I’ve even considered reinstalling both operating systems again from scratch but I don’t want to go though all the setting up again if I can avoid it

Hi SeZo

Is it now loaded? Code: [Select] lsmod | egrep '(bttv|tuner)'

I’m still at work, but I’ll try what you suggest when I get home and report back

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ lsmod | egrep '(bttv|tuner)'
tuner_simple           22016  1 
tuner_types            18998  1 tuner_simple
tuner                  26797  1 
bttv                  112147  0 
videobuf_dma_sg        18714  1 bttv
videobuf_core          25097  2 bttv,videobuf_dma_sg
btcx_risc              13400  1 bttv
rc_core                21266  1 bttv
tveeprom               17009  1 bttv
v4l2_common            15767  3 tuner,msp3400,bttv
videodev               95841  4 tuner,msp3400,bttv,v4l2_common
i2c_algo_bit           13197  2 bttv,i915
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ lsmod | egrep '(bttv|tuner)'

Also here is the error output when I try to open xawtv

graeme@Linux1 ~ $ xawtv
This is xawtv-3.102, running on Linux/i686 (3.5.0-17-generic)
xinerama 0: 1600x900+0+0
vid-open-auto: using analog TV device /dev/video0
WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display.
WARNING: keeping fbuf pitch at: 6400, as no base addr was detected
WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
         configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
v4l2: WARNING: framebuffer base address mismatch
v4l2: me=(nil) v4l=(nil)
Alsa devices: cap: (null) (/dev/video0), out: default
X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  149 (XVideo)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
  Serial number of failed request:  483
  Current serial number in output stream:  484
graeme@Linux1 ~ $ 

X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)

Hmm. that is an X server error.
Try removing acceleration on your intel graphics (from your lspci.txt)

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02)

Create a file ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf’
Open a terminal and run:

sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

a BLANK file should open.

add the following:

Section “Device”
Identifier “Intel Graphics”
Driver “intel”
Option “NoAccel” “true”
EndSection

SAVE the file, and exit gedit.

Yes, you lose the acceleration this way :wink:
You can always remove this file if it does not work.

Now to test … REBOOT then try xawtv