Been useing Ubuntu lite on my laptop for some time looking at a change and bringing some life back to the old beast, was looking at Peppermint 4.
Does peppermint run well with older pc/laptops, is there much of a shock change, or is there better distro suited for the old beast of a laptop and pc
Yep, Peppermint will do you perfectly 
The base install is a bit sparse, but your experience with Ubuntu should make adding the required software dead simple. Post back if you get any queries or issues
Peppermint is GREAT on older hardware, and ridiculously easy to use.
Peppermint 4 does however have a very short shelf life now … so you may be better off waiting for Peppermint 5 in May/June
Hi
Thanks, i am trying to bring 2 IBM T41 back to life at this stage i have been getting non pae, this happen on ubuntu 12.10, Mint lite and zorin, when i tried peppermint the t41 failed to install as it seem like the system froze, and ideals how i can get around this.
Thanks
You need to use a non-PAE kernel, try Puppy Linux (Slacko). It’s a bit basic, but it’s a good starter for ten
Thanks i just was looking in to the matter and i found Lubuntu has a process of creating a fake-PAE , would this process work for pepperment
What process is that??
In theory, if it works on Lubuntu, it’ll probably work on Peppermint, depending on if Peppermint ships a non-PAE kernel (not sure about that…)
Fake PAE will NOT work on CPU’s that don’t have support for PAE as it still installs a PAE kernel.
Some CPU’s (namely some Pentium M and Celeron M processors) do actually support PAE, but don’t report this when queried … so Fake PAE is only a workaround to allow a PAE kernel to be installed on these systems.
If you have one of these CPU’s, I’m told the Lubuntu Fake PAE installation routine can be used to install Peppermint 4 … but ONLY on those CPU’s
Does the T41 have a Pentium/Celeron “M” CPU ?
Your other option would be to install Peppermint 3 which does have a non-PAE kernel, and as it’s based on the last Ubuntu 12.04 long term support release should be good for a few years yet 
Peppermint 3 32bit ISO can be downloaded from the main Peppermint website here:
http://peppermintos.com/previous/
but for some reason that’s the first Peppermint 3 … there was a later respin which I have in my dropbox … if you’d prefer the respin, let me know and I’ll send you a link by personal message.
or you can get it as a torrent from here:
http://www.osst.co.uk/Download/peppermintos/?id=40
The respin is named Peppermint-3-20121105-i386.iso
and it’s MD5 checksum should be
05157d6dbd4ab7953870e9ee308a70a5
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Bodhi might worth a try they do a non PAE version Bodhi uses the enlightenment desktop which is very pretty but can take a bit of getting used to but it could be a good choice for a laptop
Graeme
I have installed Bodi and you right, it seems like its going to take some getting use to, I think i follow the above links and try peppermint 3, and my cpu on both IBMs is intel,
Yeah peppermint 3 would be a good choice, I have on my old Dell D600 (non PAE) and it flies
Good luck whichever way you go
Graeme
This is the process that saying how to install a fake pae
Make a USB stick for installation using the non-PAE 12.04 mini ISO. If your machine does not support boot from USB you have to burn a CD in stead.
Remember to have wired internet access during the entire process.
When the installation is finished reboot the computer.
The command
cat /proc/cpuinfo
does not show pae in the flags line for the processor. This is what we would like to change.
2
Run
sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
and after that
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:prof7bit/fake-pae
You will see a screen explaining about the PPA you are about to add. Just accept the text.
Now
sudo apt-get update
and
sudo apt-get install fake-pae
installs the fake-pae package.
Verify that
cat /proc/cpuinfo
now shows the pae flag.
In order to clean up unneeded files and save (a little) space run
sudo apt-get clean
3
If one now runs
sudo do-release-upgrade
in order to upgrade to 12.10 nothing happens, as 12.04 is a long term support release, and by default it only allows upgrades to another long term support release (regardless of PAE/non-PAE support). This must be changed before proceeding.
Executing
cd /etc/update-manager/
and
less release-upgrades
shows Prompt=lts at the bottom of release-upgrades. This must be changed to Prompt=normal.
After taking a back up with
sudo cp release-upgrades release-upgrades.backup
and executing
sudo sed -i s/Prompt=lts/Prompt=normal/ release-upgrades
the file is changed, as can be seen with another
less release-upgrades
4
Now
sudo do-release-upgrade
performs the upgrade to 12.10. You might be informed that sources.list will be changed, which is all right.
After the upgrade is completed reboot the computer and run
uname -a
which shows that the kernel is now 3.5.x
5
A second
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get update
sudo do-release-upgrade
brings the system to 13.04. You might see a number of apparent errors during the upgrade, but wait a moment before considering it a failure.
After a reboot you could be greeted by a message saying that 13.04 is available, though you have just upgraded to 13.04. It’s only a minor bug - when in doubt, as always try
uname -a
A kernel of 3.8.x indicates a successful upgrade to 13.04.
cat /proc/cpuinfo
and similar tools still show the fake pae flag.
6
Repeat step 5 to get to 13.10.
After a reboot
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
is run in order to save a little space.
7
Now the desktop environment can be installed. The command
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
gives the full installation, but often it’s better to begin with the smallest selection of packages like
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-core
Thanks
There is a posting on the Peppermint forum:
http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?p=36450#p36450
that explains how someone used the Lubuntu “grub-n-iso-n-swap” method and swapped out the Lubuntu ISO image for a Peppermint ISO image (renamed to the same name as the Lubuntu one) to install Peppermint 4 on a system with a Pentium M
But IMHO, you’d be better of just going with Peppermint 3
Yep i think your right, downloading peppermint 3 now, and i see how it goes
The major difference between Peppermint 3 and Peppermint 4 is PM4’s use of the xfwm4 window manager … I pretty sure wrote up how to install that in Peppermint 3 on here somewhere.
[EDIT]
Yup, I did:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10436.0
Doing so broke some keyboard shortcuts, but I should also be able to tell you how to get the keyboard shortcuts to work now too
:)Its put spark back to the old notebook, works well Thanks