Installing PM4 to a Dell Inspiron Mini

Hi guys

My daughter has given me her netbook to get working as it’s pretty much unusable, It’s currently running Windows 7 Starter, I’m currently backing up all her files before I start cleaning it out, She want’s to try Linux as a dual boot as she occasionally need to use Microsoft Office for her work, There’s plenty space for a dual boot but I notice a sticker on the netbook that suggest it has an Atom processor

So my question is can I install PM4 or any Linux distribution on this netbook ?

Any help would be much appreciated

Graeme

There is no reason why you could not install PM4 (or any other light distro), just chose the 32 bit.
Some of the pitfalls you may expect (depending of the version) listed on this debian site.
But watch out for the number of primary partitions used up by the OEM.

As SeZo says … pick the 32bit version and you’ll be fine with an Atom CPU (my Aspire Ones and MSI Winds all have Atoms) :slight_smile:

Before installing, I’d like to do a little homework … IIRC some (all ?) Dell Mini’s used the Intel GMA500 (Poulsbo / PowerVR) graphics chip, this MAY be a bit problematic (or maybe not).

So first step would be to create a Peppermint 4 LiveUSB stick … boot to it and select “Try Peppermint” … then before installing post the output from:

inxi -F

and

sudo fdisk -l

One thing I’d advise would probably be to (partition sceme allowing) NOT install GRUB to the master boot record, and instead use EasyBCD in Windows to boot Linux from the windows bootloader … this should ensure any windows recovery partition(s) still work as expected.
(but well figure that out when you post the output)

[EDIT]

If on the other hand it uses the Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME graphics chip (as SeZo’s link suggests) you’re laughing … same graphics chip as my netbooks (mines the 945GSE but close enough) :slight_smile:

In other good news … Peppermint 4 on an Atom based netbook FLIES by comparison to Win7 starter.

Oh, and what’s wrong with Kingsoft Office ? :wink:

Ok thanks for your advice guys

I’m still trying to get stuff off this netbook and on to my NAS for safe keeping, this thing is so slow it’s unbelievable but I’m getting there

One thing I'd advise would probably be to (partition sceme allowing) NOT install GRUB to the master boot record, and instead use EasyBCD in Windows to boot Linux from the windows bootloader .. this should ensure any windows recovery partition(s) still work as expected. (but well figure that out when you post the output)

OK I’ll folow you’re advice when I get to that stage but I don’t think this has a recovery partition if there is I don’t see it, it only has one partition visible (OS (C:) ) any removable drives I plug in are showing as “D”

Oh, and what's wrong with Kingsoft Office ? ;)

Probably nothing but i don’t know anything about Kingsoft Office, personally I’d rather just wipe Win 7 completely but I promised her she would have Microsoft Office, She’s a Chemistry Teacher and sometimes brings work home so I’m gonna play it safe and give her what she wants.

When I’m finished moving her files I’ll run a live usb and post the outputs you asked for and take it from there

Many thanks

Graeme

Windows won’t be able to “see” a recovery partition as they’re hidden to windows by default.

But “sudo fdisk -l” will tell us :wink:

We’ll also install Kingsoft Office in Peppermint … then maybe she’ll never use Windows … Kingsoft Office is better at Microsoft Office odc/docx/xls/xlsx/ppt/pptx files than Libre Office, but it doesn’t do ODF, etc.

I have both installed … add em both together, and they’re still half the size of a Microsoft Office install :slight_smile:

[EDIT]

When I say KO is “better” at .docx, etc. … I actually mean it’s (as far as I can tell) spot on with them … to the extent that people are convinced it contains M$ code, but as it’s closed source we’ll never know, and as it’s Chinese I doubt if they give a flying **** if M$ take them to court :slight_smile:
The car manufacturers tried suing for copyright infringment look how far that got them :slight_smile:

Sadly in some this is true :frowning:
Although early Dell Inspiron’s had the N450, which didn’t use Poulsbo (it’s an N270 with on-die FSB)
My missus has an HP Mini 210 with an Atom N2800, and Linux won’t boot at all on it (don’t get further than GRUB). The ONLY distro that got Poulsbo working was MeeGo (they had some Intel-provided closed-source binary driver), and that didn’t have 3D support so no modern DE will work :frowning:

RE: Office - I always thought MS Office worked pretty well under WINE?

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host: peppermint Kernel: 3.8.0-33-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Four
Machine:   Mobo: Dell model: 0GHG2G version: A01 Bios: Dell version: A01 date: 07/29/2010
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N455 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.13.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.3hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel IGD x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 9.1.7
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.8.0-33-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 5c:26:0a:10:cc:6e
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 1c:65:9d:66:6a:58
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 258.1GB (1.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500BEVT size: 250.1GB 
           2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: USB_DISK_2.0 size: 8.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 4.0G used: 110M (3%) fs: overlayfs 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 149 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 215.2/992.6MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4 
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x464fe09d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1            2048      206847      102400   de  Dell Utility
/dev/sda2          206848    20686847    10240000    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3   *    20686848   488395119   233854136    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/sdb: 8019 MB, 8019509248 bytes
154 heads, 11 sectors/track, 9246 cylinders, total 15663104 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0004971a

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *        2048    15656959     7827456    b  W95 FAT32
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ 

OK, it looks like there are 3 partitions

sda1 = a Dell utility partition
sda2 = probably a recovery partition containing the Windows recovery image.
sda3 = The windows installation

So room for another extended partition :slight_smile: … I’d still NOT install GRUB, and use the Windows bootloader via EasyBCD though.

I take it this is a Dell Mini 10 ? … if so, the hardware has all passed the Ubuntu certification, so should be fine :slight_smile:
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201010-6646/


In other news…

To access the recovery partition and reset Windows back to default, you’d normally hit Ctrl+F11.

According to this video it appears to just be a Norton Ghost image

Before you ever try that though … make sure the Dell came with Win7 preinstalled, you wouldn’t want to restore to XP now would you (check the license sticker) :slight_smile:

Would be nice if it were possible to create a recovery USB stick and save it somewhere … gimme a while and I’ll see if I can find out if this is possible.

Any questions so far ?

I take it this is a Dell Mini 10 ? .

If the “10” denotes screen size and screen size is measured across the diagonal then it’s a Dell Inspiron Mini 10

make sure the Dell came with Win7 preinstalled, you wouldn't want to restore to XP now would you (check the license sticker) :)

She’s had this netbook since new and it came preinstalled with Win 7 and has the Win 7 sticker

Would be nice if it were possible to create a recovery USB stick and save it somewhere .. gimme a while and I'll see if I can find out if this is possible.

I was gonna suggest I took a system image and wiped the recovery partition and used GRUB, would that be feasible ?

Graeme

If you have space somewhere it would certainly be a good idea to have a full disk image, taken with something like Redo/Clonezilla … just in case :slight_smile:

Personally I’d STILL use the Windows bootloader … if for no other reason than to learn a new trick that may help in the future … like most things it’s not hard once you know how :wink:

Ok I’ll follow your advice

I have REDO on a live USB do you want me to take a system image first ?

As I said … certainly can’t hurt … it can always be wiped (or updated) once we’re done.

But always handy to have a safety net :slight_smile:

Ok I’ll take an image copy and store it on the NAS

Can we pick up on this tomorrow it’s been a long day and my eyes are heavy ?

Graeme

Sure … you know where to find me :slight_smile:

Ok I’ve backed up the system image and put away for safe keeping, and I have EasyBCD installed on the Windows partition

Beam me up Scotty :slight_smile:

15 mins … just finishing off my dinner :wink:

Firsst steep is going to be resizing the Windows partition … so do you wanna boot to peppermint LiveUSB, then open gparted and resize the Windows partition leaving unpartitioned space after it (as much as you’re setting aside for Peppermint and a swap partition roughly twice the size of your RAM).

Then create an extended partition in the free space but no partitions inside it yet.

Once done, and applied, REBOOT to Windows to check it still works

Whilst in Windows download and install this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11876059/EasyBCD22.exe

Then reboot to the Peppermint 4 LiveUSB and post the output from:

sudo fdisk -l

and we’ll proceed.

Ok will do

One thing when I booted into the live PM4 usb yesterday gparted wouldnt work, but I’ll try again and post back

Ok I’m in PM4 but gparted wont load, it just says at the bottom “searching /dev/sda partitions” and the progress bar moving back and forwards

2 secs