new ish laptop - a couple of questions

Hi all.

Bought a two year old Lonovo laptop off Gumtree, just after xmas. for a £100.00
It’s running win 7 64bit and has 250 gig hd and 4 gig of ram.
My intentions were to zap win 7 and put one of the mints on.

With not using windows for so long, it was a eye opener how complicated it is to use, I’d forgotten about the security aspect, which is a nightmare, having to put anti virus on etc.

anyway, my wife wants me to keep win 7 on because she uses it at work and when she has to do any work at home , she finds it easier than using libre office, so it looks like I will duel boot, which leads me to question 1.

On the hard drive there is a hidden 30 gig section with the recovery/restore (yes 30 gig)

when i install say peppermint along side win 7, on say 100 gig partition, will the recovery section still be there, if I cock things up? on the windows partition,
Sorry if this is partially a windows question, but I know how much you secretly love it :wink:

Q 2 is a windows question, sorry,
almost everyone says drivers are better in windows but I cant get the correct drivers to work for my touchpad, I downloaded the correct one but there is no scroll function and it will not let me install a different driver,
Its not the touchpad because when I try testing different live distros, I can get it to work no probs.
This question is not important as I dont think I’ll be using the win 7, but I’m just curious.

look forward to any answers and then will install one of the mints, I’m sure I’ll have more questions.

Keith

the recovery partittion will still be there … but whether GRUB will be able to run it’s contents seems to be a crap shoot depending on how it was set up in the first place.

Personally I’d install Mint but don’t install GRUB to the MBR, instead install GRUB to the mint partition.

Then use EasyBCD to add Mint to the Windows bootloader.

Confused yet ?

if it were me, I would just chunk windows completely, but I guess go with what he suggested

It might be worth checking the partition layout before you start with the install, as just lately I came across number of laptops where all 4 of the allowed primary partitions were used up.

+1 SeZo’s comment above … this seems to have become quite common in the Windows world lately.

Well!!!
I was confused after Marks post and now after SeZo’s ??? ???

Firstly how do I check the partition layout?
I’ll do that first then go from there

Thanks

Keith

What’s the output from:

sudo fdisk -l

Run from a LiveCD/LiveUSB if necessary.

I’ve run a live usb, ran the command, no probs, but I cannot establish a internet connection, in live mode, so cannot post results
any ideas

We’ll not be able to help if you can’t post output.

I mean I could help you troubleshoot the wireless connection, but I’d need the output from some commands :wink:

Can’t you connect to your router with an ethernet cable.

Have you considered leaving the internal HDD “as is” and running Mint from an external HDD ? … maybe not ideal, but a solution.

hi Mark

thanks for trying to help

I’ve got grandchildren coming around in a few minutes so it might be later in the day

I’ll hook up to my sky router and post results

thanks

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xbfcca886

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 2048 206847 102400 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2 206848 488394751 244093952 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/sdb: 1033 MB, 1033895936 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 986 cylinders, total 2019328 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x2183fe55

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 0 1327103 663552 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdb1: 679 MB, 679477248 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 648 cylinders, total 1327104 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x2183fe55

 Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdb1p1 * 0 1327103 663552 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS

There’s only 2 partitions, so you’re good to go.

BUT

If you want to keep the Windows bootloader, the installation becomes more complex as you have to set the partitions yourself.

Is there no way to get the machine to build a “Recovery Disk” set ?

What’s the make/model ?

Mark.

thinking about it, I’m not bothered about the recovery bit, if I lose windows, so what, its only there for the wife ;D

So, when I’ve installed before, with either mint and peppermint,
I ran a live usb, let it load,
then clicked on install,
it asks whether I want to install alongside say windows, or do a complete install.

So do i just click the install alongside windows and choose the partition size, then follow the install instructions,
not touching grub or boot loader (which I know nothing about)

thanks

Keith

so what, its only there for the wife

I hope for your sake your missus doesn’t read this forum, because if she does I have a feeling you’re gonna regret that statement :slight_smile:

Graeme

Ha Ha, won’t be the first time :smiley:

Short answer … YES

Long answer … YyyyyyyEeeeeeSsssss :wink:

THANKS

I’ll let you know how I get on.

Keith

HELP

ha ha, thought it was going to well.

installed LM 16 cinammon all went well, but unable to create a wireless internet connection,

when I click on the icon on the bottom panel, the box comes up with wired, cable unplugged, and network settings below,
I can’t see a way of adding a wireless connection

any help welcome

Connect to your router with an ethernet cable, and post the output from:

sudo lshw -C network

keith@keith-Lenovo-G550 ~ $ sudo lshw -C network
[sudo] password for keith:
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for keith:
*-network
description: Network controller
product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0
version: 01
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=b43-pci-bridge latency=0
resources: irq:18 memory:f4500000-f4503fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 02
serial: 70:5a:b6:63:b9:15
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm vpd msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.132 duplex=full firmware=sb v3.04 ip=192.168.0.11 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
resources: irq:48 memory:f4600000-f460ffff