[SOLVED] Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM

I am trying to install Mint13 MATE in ORACLE VM, following this page http://reviews.omabc.com/software/os/ubuntu/install-ubuntu-oracle-vm-virtualbox#addiso
But I can’t see the ‘ADD’ option… So, I’m stuck.
Anyone got ANY ideas?

IIRC, if you’ve already created the VM, just start it … it will prompt you for an installation disk, point it t the mint.iso

From what I see once you have the VM set up click file then from the drop down menu select “Virtual Media Manager” “ADD” should be one of the options

Graeme

When you say Oracle VM , you mean Virtual box?

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Yep, that worked :slight_smile: How do I install it properly in the VM, do I just go through the process of installing as if it was a ‘real’ install?

See screenshot…

Sorry, yes.

Mmm, I’m still failing to understand why anyone would use this in preference to KVM … ??

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If my memory serves me right I think you select “New” then browse to the .iso from there and install

Graeme

Why, What’s the difference?
A VM’s a VM isn’t it?

That’s the way Mark explained…

Here’s a condensed guide from an opensuse site maybe you check through it and see you haven’t missed a step

Open VirtualBox and click on the New button and then Next and then enter a name for your virtual machine. Then select the correct Operating System type and the Version from the respective drop down menus and then Next. Select the amount of memory that will be allocated to the guest OS. Warning Leave a sufficient amount for host OS itself Select Create new hard disk and click next, a new wizard will pop up. Follow the guide and select either a Dynamically expanding storage or a Fixed-size storage Select the initial size of it. Then click on the Finish button. Click on the Next button and then the Finish button. Select your newly created virtual machine in the VirtualBox main interface and then click on Start. The "First Run Wizard" will pop up. Tell VirtualBox which ISO image file is to be used by selecting ISO Image File and use "Virtual Media Manager" to add your ISO image. The virtual machine will now boot from the image and you should proceed with the OS installation.

Good Luck

Graeme

YES

Virtualbox and VMware don’t require hardware virtualisation support from the CPU (VT-X/AMD-V) … KVM does.

Not to mention only techie types are aware of KVM :wink:

So… You’re saying the one I’m using is one of the two that is the better of the three?

Erm … NO, I’m most definitely not saying that … I’m just pointing out there are certain usage cases where KVM may not be an option, and there’s certainly going to be more “newb” style tutorials available for VirtualBox and VMWare.
(though there’s probably better “technical” documentation for KVM)

In Linux, KVM is probably going to be “best”, if by “best” you mean the most tightly integrated and efficient … hell, as it’s part of the Linux kernel, you already have the important components installed :slight_smile:
(think about it … KVM = Kernel-based Virtual Machine)
http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page

Ok, KVM does require hardware acceleration, BUT ;

When I say “KVM”, KVM is actually an extension for QEMU, and QEMU does not need hardware acceleration. So, if you run the “KVM” package (which is really QEMU with the KVM extension) on really old hardware (!) it just means it’ll run slower (just like Virtualbox!) , but if you have something a little more modern, KVM will kick in and give you 20x the performance.

AFAIK as a heavy KVM/QEMU user and a casual Virtualbox user I see;

a. KVM is a part of Linux and hence completely free, with all features in-tact, there is no commercial option.
b. Virtualbox is a commercial product with a cut-down Open Source variant … you get to a point where you want an advanced feature that may be available in KVM for example, then you get to pay.
c. KVM is quicker and more stable than Virtualbox, and far more integrated as it’s a part of the standard Kernel.
d. Virtualbox is produced by the Evil Empire MK III, so IMHO you may as well be using a M$ product (!)

Which brings me back to “I’m failing to understand …” ??

Also, SPICE is available on newer builds which gives you REALLY quick video on the console, not tried it myself but apparently it’s good enough to watch movies (when run on a GUI inside the VM). Not sure whether Virtualbox has SPICE support?

… given the current Sun, Java, MySQL and Open Office fiasco’s , would you trust them to do anything right ??

So…
How do I go about properly uninstalling the one I’ve got and installing the KVM?
As I am unable to get Mint13 MATE to install whatsoever!

Dunno … how did you install Virtualbox ?

As a matter of interest, what’s the output from:

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags

and

dpkg -l | grep virtualbox

apt-get install qemu-kvm qemu-utils virt-manager libvirt-bin

This should import everything you need.
Once done, you should have “virt-manager” in your menus.

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags

pooky2483@pooky2483-ubuntu12:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv
pooky2483@pooky2483-ubuntu12:~$

dpkg -l | grep virtualbox

pooky2483@pooky2483-ubuntu12:~$ dpkg -l | grep virtualbox
ii virtualbox-4.2 4.2.10-84104~Ubuntu~precise Oracle VM VirtualBox
pooky2483@pooky2483-ubuntu12:~$

@Mad Penguin
Is it OK to install it BEFORE uninstalling the other one I have got installed?
when I install it and then uninstall the other one, it won’t remove anything that is needed?

To uninstall VirtualBox:

sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox-4.2

Then if you wish delete the “Virtualbox” directory from your Home directory.


BTW, your CPU does not support hardware accelerated virtualisation.

Which architecture of Mint 13 MATE were you trying to install in VirtualBox ? … 32 or 64bit ?

Is it OK to install it BEFORE uninstalling the other one I have got installed?

They may not coexist, however I’m not aware of any specific reason why you can’t have them both installed … (??)