Ok Mark thank you
I’m at work but will try your instructions when I get home and report back
Many thanks
Graeme
Okey dokey.
I’m thinking it would be worth testing the original router/modem to see if the dropouts stop and the speedtest results improve.
At least that should tell us if it’s the superhub at fault … Personally I think it is, a LOT of other people say the wireless is rubbish on them (amongst other issues) … and there must be a reason they put “Modem Mode” in there 
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I take it the original setup was a separate cable modem and router ? (2 boxes) ?
Have you got make(s)/model(s) for those ?
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I'm thinking it would be worth testing the original router/modem to see if the dropouts stop and the speedtest results improve.
Ok I’m happy to go along with that I can set it up tonight after work if you want ?
I take it the original setup was a separate cable modem and router ? (2 boxes) ?
Yes it was a Motorola Surfboard Cable Modem and a Belkin Wireless Router I can give you the exact model of the router when I get home but I dont have the modem anymore as the engineer took it away when he installed the Superhub, I also have a Virgin Media Modem/Router (not a Superhub) I bought at a boot sale but I’ve never tried it, I think it’s a Netgear.
Well I suppose we could put the Superhub into “Modem Mode” and use that as the modem … but we’d better make sure we know how to reset it if necessary.
Yeh, models of both Belkin and Netgear kit would be handy … you never know, someone may have already written a “how to” … or at the least we can get their respective manuals.
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Well I suppose we could put the Superhub into "Modem Mode" and use that as the modem .. but we'd better make sure we know how to reset it if necessary.
I’m sure I saw a reset button on the Superhub but once again I’ll confirm that when I get home
I suppose we’d have nothing to lose if we tried the Netgear modem/router if we could get in working
But when I get home I’ll post all the relevant information regarding all the hardware and i’ll go by whatever you think is best
Many thanks
Graeme
Ok the wireless router i was using with the Motorola Surfboard is a Belkin F5D7234-4 v3 wireless G
The Modem/Router is a Netgear VMDG280, the default SSID & Passphrase are on the side so it should be a simple matter to set it up (where have I heard that before)
The Superhub has a small reset button it so i assume if things went horribly wrong we could get ourselves back to square 1 again
Let me know how you wish to proceed
Many thanks
Graeme
Not ignoring this posting … just been a bit busy and want to do a bit of homework on the Superhub first.
The problem is I want to be 100% sure how to get back to where you are now before saying “switch to modem mode”.
Is there an option to export the current settings (to a file) in the superhub (and to import the settings from the file again) ?
Does the Superhub require you to enter account details … and if so, do you know what they are ?
(don’t post them here … I just want to know if you know them)
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Just an update, I’ve been messing about with this all evening, first of all I tried the Netgear Modem/Router but in spite of several attempts of resetting to factory settings it wouldn’t accept the passphrase on the side of the box so I gave up on that, all the PC’s on the network give very good connection speeds apart from Linux4 which I find odd if the problem is coming form the hub, so eventually I tried running several live discs I had lying around, Zorin connected to the internet no problem and ran well , Bodhi also connected no problem and ran well, but in spite of several attempts I could not get a Peppermint 4 live session to connect to my network at all, so could I have a bad installation disc or could there be something about my hardware that P4 doesn’t like, this PC I’m on now (Linux3) is running Peppermint 4 and has no issues at all and getting amazing download speeds
Anyway it’s all very confusing it’s late and my brain hurts
Goodnight
Graeme
The problem is I want to be 100% sure how to get back to where you are now before saying "switch to modem mode".
would simply pressing the reset button not do that, I’ve checked in the manual but it says nothing about it
Is there an option to export the current settings (to a file) in the superhub (and to import the settings from the file again) ?
I’m not really sure there is on any other router I’ve used but I’ll check it out and report back to you
Does the Superhub require you to enter account details .. and if so, do you know what they are ?
the only details I have to enter is a username and password, I can’t change the username but I can change the password, but i have taken a note of all the defaults
OK because of your last but one posting, I’m now thinking it’s NOT the superhub
On the problem machine (Linux3) can you boot the LiveCD’s of Zorin and Bodhi … and post the output from:
uname -a
and
sudo lshw -C network
Can you also try a Peppermint 3 LiveCD
If it’s OK in Bodhi and Pepeprmint 3 (both based on 12.04 so probably using the 3.2 kernel), I can only assume it’s something to do with the rt2800pci wireless driver in the 3.8 kernel … then we can try some others, 3.9 for instance.
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or possible the firmware … Whilst you try that and post the output, I’ll look into the firmware:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800pci
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Hi Mark
Below are the outputs you asked for, however I think I may have stumbled upon the problem or at least a part of the problem,
There was 2 network adaptors installed on the machine and internal PCI and a USB,
Before I started booting the live discs to get the outputs you asked for I removed the USB so as not to cause any confusion, Bodhi was first and when it booted into the desktop it showed no available networks, but when I plugged in the USB adaptor it then showed 2 (the USB and the PCI) if I unplugged the USB again both networks disappeared, the same thing happened with Zorin but seemed to sort itself out when i booted into Peppermint 3, so now all live discs will see the network with only the PCI card installed, and connect to the network and the internet except Peppermint 4 live which will connect to the network but not the internet
The installed Peppermint 4 is back to where it was when first installed adequate but not great and broadbandspeedchecker is still showing poor download speed compared to the other machines on the network, unfortunately i cant run broadbandspeedchecker in any live session as it needs a flash plugin to work
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ uname -a
Linux peppermint 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:41:14 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo lshw -C network
*-network:0
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:e0:4c:39:22:53
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:17 ioport:ec00(size=256) memory:e6010000-e60100ff
*-network:1
description: Wireless interface
product: RT3062 Wireless 802.11n 2T/2R
vendor: Ralink corp.
physical id: a
bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 00
serial: c8:3a:35:c0:6d:57
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800pci driverversion=3.2.0-23-generic firmware=0.34 ip=192.168.2.14 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:18 memory:e6000000-e600ffff
peppermint@peppermint ~ $
live@live:~$ uname -a
Linux live 3.2.0-41-generic-pae #66-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 25 03:50:20 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
live@live:~$ sudo lshw -C network
*-network:0
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:e0:4c:39:22:53
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:17 ioport:ec00(size=256) memory:e6010000-e60100ff
*-network:1
description: Wireless interface
product: RT3062 Wireless 802.11n 2T/2R
vendor: Ralink corp.
physical id: a
bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 00
serial: c8:3a:35:c0:6d:57
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800pci driverversion=3.2.0-41-generic-pae firmware=0.34 ip=192.168.2.14 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:18 memory:e6000000-e600ffff
live@live:~$
dhi@bodhi:~$ uname -a
Linux bodhi 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:45:18 UTC 2012 i686 ath
lon i386 GNU/Linux
bodhi@bodhi:~$ sudo lshw -C network
*-network:0
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
logical name: eth0
version: 10
serial: 00:e0:4c:39:22:53
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:17 ioport:ec00(size=256) memory:e6010000-e60100ff
*-network:1
description: Wireless interface
product: RT3062 Wireless 802.11n 2T/2R
vendor: Ralink corp.
physical id: a
bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 00
serial: c8:3a:35:c0:6d:57
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800pci driverversion=3.2.0-35-generic firmware=0.34 ip=192.168.2.14 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:18 memory:e6000000-e600ffff
bodhi@bodhi:~$
Many thanks
Graeme
You don’t (or shouldn’t) see 2 NETWORKS because you have 2 adapters fitted … you should still only see the same networks.
but obviously you’ll see 2 adapters.
Anyway … do all 3 of those PM3/Bodhi/Zorin give acceptable wireless speeds ?
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but obviously you'll see 2 adapters.
Sorry I didn’t explain that well but that’s what I mean
Anyway .. do all 3 of those PM3/Bodhi/Zorin give acceptable wireless speeds
Yes they all seem fast enough considering I’m running them from a live CD but I cant run the speedchecker in a live session so I don’t have any comparison figures to show you
Many thanks
Graeme
Why can’t you run a speedtest in a live session … no flashplayer ?
Try one of the other (non-flash) speedtesters … such as:
http://testmy.net/auto
or
Or do you just want to go ahead and try the 3.9 kernel, and see if it makes a difference or not ?
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Why can't you run a speedtest in a live session .. no flashplayer ?
Yes broadbandspeedchecker requires flash
Or do you just want to go ahead and try the 3.9 kernel, and see if it makes a difference or not ?
I would really need your advice on that Mark what I know about kernels borders on the dangerous, I’m happy to run the non flash speed tests first on each live session if you think would it would help you make a more informed decision
Many thanks
Graeme
It’s probably already in here, but to save me trawling back through a long topic … is PM4 on Linux4 32bit or 64bit ?
If unsure, send the output from
uname -a
and I’ll type up instructions for installing the 3.9 kernel.
Speetest results can’t hurt … but I figure, we can just try 3.9 anyway.
It's probably already in here, but to save me trawling back through a long topic .. is PM4 on Linux4 32bit or 64bit ?
Yes Linux4 Peppermint 4 32bit
OK, run:
mkdir ~/kernel-3.9
then
cd ~/kernel-3.9
then
wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/linux-headers-3.9.0-030900-generic_3.9.0-030900.201304291257_i386.deb
then
wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/linux-headers-3.9.0-030900_3.9.0-030900.201304291257_all.deb
then
wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/linux-image-3.9.0-030900-generic_3.9.0-030900.201304291257_i386.deb
then
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
once that’s finished and leaves you back at an $ prompt … REBOOT.
Once rebooted, check you’re using the 3.9 kernel with:
uname -a
If so, check how wireless works now.
And remember, if anything goes wrong you can still select an earlier kernel from the GRUB menu.
ok I followed your instructions but the first download seemed to stall at 98% and sat there for over 20 minutes, so I gave up and created the directory on my PC downloaded the files then copied them over to the home directory via a USB drive of the offending PC then installed, then the reboot stalled for about another 10 to 15 minutes do I powered off and on again, once rebooted I checked I was running kernel 3.9 which I was, I was then offered updates mainly to do with open jdk and it’s been installing them now for the past half an hour and not quite half way through, so it doesn’t look good at the moment but I’ll leave it as long as it needs and report back
Many thanks
Graeme
Nope … that doesn’t sound promising 
I’m beginning to think this may be better off with PM3 ???
I suppose we could try the firmware package from PM3/Precise … maybe they screwed up the firmware somewhere along the line.
But I think it’s more likely this is something else altogether … such as screwe interrupts, etc. with later kernels
We could spend forever tracking it down … or just swap to PM3, and if you want, make PM3 act/look like PM4 ?